Planning return to racing in 2010

[7UpJordan]

Hi

This year I have not been doing any racing due to the financial crisis and I want to consolidate my finances. Next year I am planning on making a comeback.

I did 2 Formula Vee races in 2008 on arrive and drive basis which went smoothly, but I'd like to try something a little different.

I want to re-apply for my licence, the one I have is 2008 licence and I know that I will need to have a new medical carried out. But will I have to re-do the ARDS test or is that for if you've been out for many years?

I am thinking of doing something like Formula Jedi. Does anybody know what the costs are compared to Formula Vee? Also what is it like fitting into a Jedi car compared to the Vee? Because one of the problems I had is that I'm 6'1" and I never felt totally comfortable behind the Vee I was driving (this particular one was originally built for a lady!).

Are there any other series which you could recommend to me as well that might be worth it?

Thanks

[driftwood]

you will not need to do the ards test if you renew licence every 2 or 3 years
it is cheaper to keep yr licence going every seaosn anyway than let it lapse and have to redo part of teh test

series to race in all depends on your budget to buy a car/ or rent a car for the year?
Do you intend to own a car and prep it yourself and transport to events?

i see you live in yorkshire so how far do you intend to travel

value for money is FFord somewher a race every fortnight!

Club F3 great cars ( [proper race cars!) £9-35k 3 different clases and some other Libre races you can do with a car as well not as expensive as you may think to run them
I can offer Fford race hire
I can offer f3 race hire or sell you 1 of my 3 cars

jedis = fast cars but i wouldnt wanna be in one when it shunts!

[7UpJordan]

I am looking to do arrive and drives. I've been as far as Silverstone so any races as far south as there would be fine.

As far as budget is concerned, I did my Vee races for something around £700 a race for hiring the car, so anywhere around that or similar for an arrive and drive event would be fine.

That's good about the Licence part, I'm definately going to re-apply then.

[driftwood]

can do FFord at that level

licence you can apply in dec for 2010 licence that is as earl as u can get next season licence
if u wanted to do some FFord test days this year i think u can test if u ahve applied for new licence and have old licence etc

If yr interested in Fford test days over winter send me PM

[maddogf3]

Originally Posted by driftwood

you will not need to do the ards test if you renew licence every 2 or 3 years
it is cheaper to keep yr licence going every seaosn anyway than let it lapse and have to redo part of teh test

series to race in all depends on your budget to buy a car/ or rent a car for the year?
Do you intend to own a car and prep it yourself and transport to events?

i see you live in yorkshire so how far do you intend to travel

value for money is FFord somewher a race every fortnight!

Club F3 great cars ( [proper race cars!) £9-35k 3 different clases and some other Libre races you can do with a car as well not as expensive as you may think to run them
I can offer Fford race hire
I can offer f3 race hire or sell you 1 of my 3 cars

jedis = fast cars but i wouldnt wanna be in one when it shunts!

Well Done mate. sound advise and not knocking us lot for once .
Come and race in Clubf3 after becoming spectator's ourselves towing our car back to the paddock after a breakdown in Sunday afternoon race I saw how extiting the racing can be with these cars and how awsome they look on the track compared to formula fords and they are competitively priced .Dont go to the darkside come to us

[schuey57]

universal racing services classic formula ford 2000 is brilliant value for cheap slicks and wings racing, all pre 83 cars mainly van diemens, parts still produced by "urs", can buy one for between £9-12k.

[maddogf3]

Originally Posted by schuey57

universal racing services classic formula ford 2000 is brilliant value for cheap slicks and wings racing, all pre 83 cars mainly van diemens, parts still produced by "urs", can buy one for between £9-12k.

I think you will find an F3 for that price contact jgrayjnr@dacs.ltd.uk he will probably know where they are all lurking even Mr Driftweed has some, he says for that price, but be carful he needs to get himself a new jacket (That brown one is something else)

[JNWRF01]

the only advice i can give is to only race something you can afford to crash. Most of club racing is the same price give or take a bit - but F3 cars (or anything with carbon and high performance engines) are always going to be more expensive when things go bang or when you hit something. Hence why i race in F3 rather than something carbon...

I think URS looks great, but you can 't go wrong with FF1600. Good luck.

[7UpJordan]

I think F3 might be a little out of my league considering I've not had much experience. :P

[driftwood]

My FFord will be ready for testing after the Walter Hayes meeting next weekend
so get your licence sorted and we can get 1 or 2 days FFord testing done at mallory Snetterton poss Donington and then some more in march 2010 get you upto speed for racing next season

we can look at fF for later in 2010 lets not run before we can walk !!

[JohnMiller]

You can't run an F3 arrive and drive for £700 per race. FVee is probably your best bet, maybe just about FF1600 - Monoposto is also worth a good look for that sort of money.

[Nick Harrison]

Originally Posted by JohnMiller

Monoposto is also worth a good look for that sort of money.

7UpJordan. You have a PM.

[driftwood]

Thanks john for completley ballsing up the thread
who has said F3 is 700 quid only you!
FFord is 700 quid and not just about
Mono being a good bet oh yeah with which car F3 based car or FFord
cmon guys get real
This man wants to go racing in an economcal fashion where he gets lots of seat time and is not throwing tyres at a car or high cost low milega engine rebuilds or many hours prepping time to prep the car
He doesnt need fancy truck & awning in the paddock
he has already doen F vee and appears to want to try something else
Logical to try Fford in a decent prepared and maintained car at some club races

Its natural after a year he may want to try his hand at something a bit faster more technically challenging but it will cost hm more money so he can consider f3 type car
I can do him FFord for a year of testing racing at his budget level
I can offer him an f3 car to rty se eif he like sit or he can have arun in my Mono spec f3 car
hell if he fells horny enough and has saved his beer vouchers may even let him have a run in my F3000 car
but let the guy walk before he can run and dial himself in gently and see if he can afford it and enjoy the concept of driving a race car again

[greasy stick]

...now thats the Driftwood we've all come to know and love, welcome back old buddy!

[JohnMiller]

Daftwad, he said around £700 for arrive and drive. Maddog said come and race F3. I pointed out F3 costs more than that.

So does FF1600 in fact.

[andrewc]

I think various people within Monoposto circles were offering a drive for that sort of figure in a Formula Vauxhall Junior or similar.

[driftwood]

hey windy miller
rubbish fford does not cost more than 700 quid it can do if you want new car truck 2 spare sets of tyres top spec engine 2 mechanics to wipe yr nose
please get realistic on costs
the man wants to drive a car not win a championship he knows full well bells n whistles cost more but to rent a car to run midfield aint gonna cost a lot and im prepared to run him in a car for his sort of budget
all he has to do is contact me to do some testing and plan a run of events to give him a budget

[JNWRF01]

can i rent a F3 car for £700 then?

[Peter Dunne]

Originally Posted by JNWRF01

can i rent a F3 car for £700 then?

You can sit in mine for £700, might even let you fire it up

[driftwood]

Peter i like yer style

the base line answer Jeremy is you could get a run in the older 88-93 era f3 car but not the later dallara cars in Club F3
you would get 10 lapper club libre racing at that level of money though

[greasy stick]

better still, go and find any straight car that is up for sale, (preferably this would be one has been run by a team & owned by a driver who was a midfielder, that way the car is in top condition and not had its nuts driven off).

Instead of paying all that hard earned cash for a rent-a-ride and have a team of blokes to clean & polish the car at the track simply to look busy, buy some new tyres, get one of your mates who is a mechanic to be your team mate, read the theory books (no one ever does) and go racing. Start at the back of the grid and move forward. Don't keep thrashing around on worn out rubber, you will just confuse yourself.

Cost of FF1600 - car seems to be silly money, about £10,000
Cost of F3 Masters - I suppose about £12,000
Cost of F3 Class 2001 - Dallara301 they ask about £25,000 but you can get good ones for £18,000.

Whatever, its a once-only captial investment and any one of these is far better value for money than a season's rent-a-ride...

[driftwood]

you have completley missed the mans point
he doesnt want to own a car!!!!
1 has to spend lots of dough buying it
2 probably doesnt have space to keep car or trailer ( another expense)
3 then tow vehicle tools stands jacks etc etc
4 he doesnt want top do the prepping
5 drag car to track find helpers etc etc
6 then you have to deal with A holes when you want to sell the car

renting a race car is a far better way for many folk to go racing
ive done it and i would look at doing it again
running a race car when you have a job/ career/ business to run & a family is a pain in the ass
so give the guy useful info that helps him

[Triple J Motorsport]

Originally Posted by driftwood

Thanks john for completley ballsing up the thread
who has said F3 is 700 quid only you!
FFord is 700 quid and not just about
Mono being a good bet oh yeah with which car F3 based car or FFord
cmon guys get real
This man wants to go racing in an economcal fashion where he gets lots of seat time and is not throwing tyres at a car or high cost low milega engine rebuilds or many hours prepping time to prep the car
He doesnt need fancy truck & awning in the paddock
he has already doen F vee and appears to want to try something else
Logical to try Fford in a decent prepared and maintained car at some club races

Its natural after a year he may want to try his hand at something a bit faster more technically challenging but it will cost hm more money so he can consider f3 type car
I can do him FFord for a year of testing racing at his budget level
I can offer him an f3 car to rty se eif he like sit or he can have arun in my Mono spec f3 car
hell if he fells horny enough and has saved his beer vouchers may even let him have a run in my F3000 car
but let the guy walk before he can run and dial himself in gently and see if he can afford it and enjoy the concept of driving a race car again

How much to have a tested in a modern F3 or your F3000 on good but not new rubber. Fancy a go round Silverstone GP circuit next summer.

[driftwood]

can do a test day in f3 for £1-2k all depends on how much track time you use
more miles more $ for engine miles general wear n tear
Can do in 97 or 01 dallara

F3000 will be a lot more £40-50 per mile on engines alone!
Is Ted giving you this as your 40th birthday present?

[Triple J Motorsport]

Originally Posted by driftwood

Is Ted giving you this as your 40th birthday present?

He's a pensioner! Always paid for my own racing why I was 21 when started karting...few years to 40 too!!