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Old 23 Apr 2007, 11:45 (Ref:1898401)   #1
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CSCC - Snetterton, 21/22, April 2007

This two day event described on the programme as the 'Classic, Jaguar & Porsche Weekend' was pretty much what it said on the packet! I only attended on Saturday, and although most of the races were repeated the following day, from a Historics point of view, I was disappointed to miss the 'Swinging Sixties' race which only took place on the Sunday. If anyone can report back on this and any of the other historics races for Sunday, that would be good.

I will start the pictorial review today but time and the fact that this is the historic forum, means that I will restrict myself to those races that involved grids which were primarily historic in nature.

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Old 23 Apr 2007, 14:11 (Ref:1898562)   #2
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John, have you got any pictures of the SRGTC race I could use on our website? Pretty pretty please.
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Old 23 Apr 2007, 14:29 (Ref:1898577)   #3
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Yes, of course, although by that time of the meeting I was out at the Esses trying to get some 'alternative' shots so not sure how succesful they were. Anyway, can I crave your patience while we get this and the Cadwell thread well and truly launched?
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Old 23 Apr 2007, 14:49 (Ref:1898586)   #4
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Scrutineering beckons for Dave Lecoq's Petty Manx, while in the background, the Mk9 Cooper JAP of poleman, namesake, John Turner, has a quiet moment!


The queue for scrutineering:-


Crouching Cats. The XJC and XJS of Robert Macvicar:-


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Tom Smith's MGB at scrutineering:-


Awaiting the sound test. The TVRs of Steven Skinner and Malcolm Johnson head the queue:-


Bob Ridgard's MGB gets 'probed'. It amazes me that a circuit like Snetterton has to be so rigorous with its decibel level. It's not exactly sitting in a heavily populated area, and it's a shame that a couple of whingers have influenced the local district council. I'm sure my roadgoing V8 TVR would fail, by some margin, this test:-


More in the queue with the Pat Arculus Lotus Elite showing what a petite little car this, a Chapman/Costin masterpiece:-
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Regarding the noise test at this event, there was also a race for historic bikes, this was run under an ACU permit apparantly and they were allowed 'open' exhausts
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It amazes me that a circuit like Snetterton has to be so rigorous with its decibel level. It's not exactly sitting in a heavily populated area, and it's a shame that a couple of whingers have influenced the local district council. I'm sure my roadgoing V8 TVR would fail, by some margin, this test:-
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Great pics John.
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Race 2 - Toyo Tyres XJS Championship

Race 1 was for Classic bikes, and great though they are, I'm not going there!

Race 2 was for XJS, straight 6 and V12, rangeing from 1979 to 1993, so I reckon they are historic now. These, by European standards anyway, are big machines and a grid of 27 was mighty impressive. Lots of mass to keep under control, great sounds and plenty of rubber laid down and dusted kicked up!:-

Steve Davis put his V12 on pole and won by 7 seconds although Gail Hill (1), the current champion, who finished 2nd was not always that far back:-


Bob Beecham finished 25th in his Straight Six version:-


Roger Webster's straight 6 was 18th:-


Stewart Lyddall's mean looking V12 was 3rd:-

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As stated on the Swinging Sixties thread I would just like to thank all the competitors and especially the co-ordinators of the various series involved over the weekend; Paul, Terry, Jim, Tony, Richard, Billy, Nigel and Steve (thanks also to Steve for sorting out the Safety Car drivers who provided great company during our stints on standby!!) for all their co-operation over a very busy weekend, ensuring the cars were available in the assembly area at the right times.

All your combined efforts certainly assisted in minimizing delays and was really appreciated by all the team upstairs.

It was certainly a very entertaining weekend and we all look forward to the next one!

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I would also like to thank HUGELY the marshals, clerks, timekeepers, scrutineers and all others who volunteered and helped put on this superb event


and not forgetting the 300+ competitors who made very few excursions and helped keep to the timetable

and to apologise for my "smokey moment" in quali - it was gear oil that caused it, from a dislodged gearbox dipstick!



But those lovely Scruts gave me my sticker back and we finished the race!


When I find out which 2 marshals go into the Daytona Draw I will let youll know!
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Regarding the noise test at this event, there was also a race for historic bikes, this was run under an ACU permit apparantly and they were allowed 'open' exhausts
I think you will find that the ACU are just as strict as the MSA, if not more so.

The only categories exempt are pre 1961 racing cars at the discretion of the organiser
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Some photos of an incidenrt from the "Tin Tops" race.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...ngtogether.jpg

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...1offtheygo.jpg

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...dustflying.jpg

Its me in the Uno in the following photos. Managed to overtake 5-6 cars in the first few laps & then had a great battle with the Maestro, No 25, & I managed to stay ahead until the driver change. My partner then brought the car home 15th out of 20, having started 27th and last on the grid after tech probs in practice.

Great fun.

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My father took these photos, attending his first race since 1986 (and only his second ever). he was so impressed with the day that he went back for more on the sunday, even though I wasn't racing!

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Race 3 - Apex Tubulars Porshe Club Championship

Excellent pics from your father, Andy.

A great mix of front and rear engined Porsches made up this big field. The oldest car dated from 1977 and the newest, 1994, so again I can justify inclusion. Some great dices down the field, and a good one for the lead involving poleman, James Neal (88) in his 964C2 and Tom Segrue ((968CS). However, Neal won by over 19 seconds from Mark McAleer (968), with Segrue 3rd, a further 6 seconds back, despite him setting fastest lap. However, as I seem to go deaf whilst taking shots, I missed the reason for him dropping back (a spin, an off, mechanical - anyone know?). There were quite a few 'moments' and this is apparent by some very fast lap times posted by drivers who finished further down the field. Here the winner leads from Segrue, although the latter was ahead on occasion:-


39 is Chris Dyer who eventually finished 17th, 41 is 911 of David Holroyd who finished 18th, and 25 is David Burke in his 911SC who finished 30th and last in this big field. He had qualified 18th, and his best race lap was seveal seconds faster than a number of those who finished ahead of him, so he, too, clearly had some sort of problem:-


Mark Taylor in his 911SC had a big battle with Christopher May in his 944S2 but was unable to stave him off for the whole race, and they swapped places finishing 20th and 21st. Note the loose 'eyelid' on the 944:-


Battle of 944s. Entering Russell's, Charles Winterhalder and Adrian Stock finished in this order, 28th and 29th:-

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Race 4 - Vredestein/Soilmec JEC Saloon Challenge

A goodly mix of Jaguar saloons, this saw a titanic battle for the lead between Mike Cann's pole sitting 3.8 Mk2 and fellow front row man, Richard Dorlin's 4.2 XJ6. Cann's 1.4 second qualifying advantage was not translated in the race, and Dorlin got alongside 2 or 3 times. It was a monumental struggle and Cann only got a bit of a breather when Dorlin got a little delayed lapping backmarkers. It was good to see the old Mk2, still surely the most beautiful Jaguar saloon ever built, leading and winning the race. However, I should point out that it was in the heaviest modified class (D) whereas Dorlin's was in the less modified (B) class. A fine race by both of them; a second separated them after 11 hard fought laps, and they finished 13 seconds ahead of 3rd place Simon Lewis in his XJ6:-


It is a strange fact that the only other runner in Class D finished last, but Andrew Jeffrey's Jaguar Lister XJ is a mighty big car to go racing in:-


You'd have to think that there was contact here! Simon Hollihgworth's Mk2 is about to pull into the pits (the only race retiree) as Stephen Bantleman has to attempt to squeeze between Hollingworth and Robert Drewery's Daimler Sovereign. Bantleman finished 14th and Drewery, 9th:-


The only Invitation class entry was that of Chris Palmer in his XJ6 X300, seen here ahead of Howard Kirkham, in XJ40. They finished in this order 4th & 5th:-
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Race 5 - Virgin Radio Classic Rock 'Equipe' GTS

A truly wonderful entry of MGBs, TR4s and TVRs from the 1960's spiced up with singleton entries of Gilbern GT, TR3A, Alfa GTA, Lotus Elite and Spitfire, and, as an added bonus, a pair of XK120s, made up a fantastic grid. Lots of close racing right down the field with a superb duel at the front between poleman Tom Smith's MGB and Malcolm Johnson's TVR. Johnson grabbed the early lead and resisted Smith's heroic attempts to get by for several laps. Eventually, Smith hit the front but the role reversal saw an immediate and sustained counter-attack by Johnson. In his attempts to stay ahead, Smith was putting the power on earlier and earlier out of Russell, and eventually he applied it a tad too early and got slightly out of shape. The slight loss in momentum was enough to allow Johnson to draw alongside on the Senna Straight and with the inside line into Riches, he retook the lead which he never again relinquished. The pair were split slightly through backmarkers, and although Smith came back strongly, he was not quite close enough to launch a further attack before the flag came out. A superb scrap:-


Allan Ross-Jones gets it all wrong going into Russell's, in his very smart TR4, but he recovered to finish 17th. A swarm of 'B's avoid him - David Wood (55 -19th), Andrew Burroughs (61 - 21st), Mark Way (41 - 16th), and Paul Freeman (13 - 26th):-


David Wozencroft took his TR4 to 13th, whilst the XK120 of Nick Wilkins finished 29th:-


Great to see the Gilbern 1800GT of Michael Bell. A 24th place finish was recorded:-

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