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Old 6 Sep 2019, 16:26 (Ref:3926227)   #1546
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Old 7 Sep 2019, 05:47 (Ref:3926301)   #1547
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If you include HUD in the helmet, you need to have electronics in the helmet as well. Not sure it is a good idea to plug solid objects and add weight into the crash protection.
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Old 7 Sep 2019, 18:15 (Ref:3926381)   #1548
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If you include HUD in the helmet, you need to have electronics in the helmet as well. Not sure it is a good idea to plug solid objects and add weight into the crash protection.
Modern electronic components weigh very little. A Samsung S10 smart phone weighs 157g. HUD, as well as HMD (Helmet Mounted Display), have been used with military aircraft for many years and some military aircraft, notably jet fighters, can pull very high G forces and this will have been taken into account, when designing the helmet.
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If the Halo didn't prove itself last year at Spa with LeClerc, then it surely proved itself in F3 with Alex Peroni. Luck still plays a part though as if he had landed such that a fence post was in the way, the halo would not have protected him.

I therefore believe that closed cockpits are inevitable.

I love the open cockpit nature of F1 and other open-wheeler series. I thought the Halo would detract from the overall aesthetics of the cars yet accepted that it is needed from a safety point of view. I don't even register them now except when onboard and even then it's not a nuisance, just another part of the car.

I expect it to be much the same with a closed cockpit as long as it provides a clear view of the driver at work from outside the car.
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IndyCar will be testing the Aeroscreen in October.

https://racer.com/2019/08/31/indycar...roscreen-test/
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Modern electronic components weigh very little. A Samsung S10 smart phone weighs 157g. HUD, as well as HMD (Helmet Mounted Display), have been used with military aircraft for many years and some military aircraft, notably jet fighters, can pull very high G forces and this will have been taken into account, when designing the helmet.
That would be another 6.2 kg hanging off your neck in a 40G impact, and it could be a lot higher! Ouchy!
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There is a video on youtube showing Giuliano Alesi's detached rear wing striking the the HALOS of both Jordan King and Sean Galael in the F2 race at Monza. Without question it saved both from being struck in the face by large sections of Alesi's rear wing.

Can also see substantial damage to the HALO on Galael's car following the impact.

I think the HALO has without doubt saved a fair few lives since its adoption, pity it wasn't put in place ten years earlier!
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That can happen wings coming off, so it's a good thing the halo is there. I would hate for them to have it strike in the face at high speed. It does serve a purpose the halo. I

It's something we have got used to. Of course we can't change the past, but it'll keep racing safer now
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Images here of the Indycar aero screen being tested at Indy.

It actually looks more bulky than I expected.
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Images here of the Indycar aero screen being tested at Indy.

It actually looks more bulky than I expected.

Sadly, and surprising myself, I think the Halo looks better.
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Images here of the Indycar aero screen being tested at Indy.

It actually looks more bulky than I expected.
I think I read that the width of the screen is to do with ensuring distortion free vision which perhaps a more pointed version might not,


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Sadly and surprising myself, I think the Halo looks better.
I feel the same and believe that now, having been an avid anti halo person in F1 I have to confess I barely notice it now, having become accustomed to it.

Will Power commented very positively on the screen, talking of now having used it , reverting to no screen would make him feel naked.
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I think I read that the width of the screen is to do with ensuring distortion free vision which perhaps a more pointed version might not.
It will be interesting to see what Sebastien Bourdais makes of it, when testing at Sebring on November 5, as he wears glasses.
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My initial response was its size. For me that is the difference between it and the halo. I do think we are used to the halo.

With that being said, kudos to IndyCar for a full solution that provides best of breed protection. I expect the IndyCar drivers will come to love it given the protection it gives.

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My initial response was its size. For me that is the difference between it and the halo. I do think we are used to the halo.

With that being said, kudos to IndyCar for a full solution that provides best of breed protection. I expect the IndyCar drivers will come to love it given the protection it gives.

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Is it? No doubt the IndyCar version provides better protection against something small like the spring that hit Massa, but how well does it scrub up against the Halo in massive impacts?

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I feel the same and believe that now, having been an avid anti halo person in F1 I have to confess I barely notice it now, having become accustomed to it.

Will Power commented very positively on the screen, talking of now having used it , reverting to no screen would make him feel naked.
That's an interesting comment and something that I'd not considered. I'm old enough to remember being in a road car before seat belts wearing was compulsory. After a while of always wearing one I felt very vulnerable without a seat belt.
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