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OULTON PARK GOLD CUP (HSCC)
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24 Aug 2019 to 26 Aug 2019 07:30 to 18:00
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Location: Oulton Park

The 3 day HSCC bank holiday weekend visit to Oulton Park.

Includes Super Touring Car Challenge races.
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Old 28 Aug 2019, 20:05 (Ref:3924544)   #31
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Always enjoyed this meeting but agree it needs a headline race to justify its title. Date is just too close to Goodwood to justify a higher profile.
MSV website made much of F5000 anniversary but nothing in paddock or on track.
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Old 29 Aug 2019, 06:31 (Ref:3924592)   #32
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I was at Brands but normally attend the Gold Cup . For many years it had a real buzz , with big grids , the odd Masters F1 race and some lovely sports racers . But I have found it like turning up to a big gig and finding only the support band is playing .



The problem is clearly the usual malaise in the sport - as soon as one initiative grows wings everybody wants a slice .Result - more than enough cars out there but as circuits are all fishing in the same pond , loyalties and preferences change and everyone loses .



Goodwood may have kick started the serious classic festival but its prices , exclusivity and astonishing attention to detail mean it is sui generis , with no real rivals. But nearly every other venue has taken to calling a routine historic meeting a bloody festival , with the inevitable dressing up and overhyped publicity . Result ? In the UK , Goodwood apart, only the Classic really delivers .



Donington was a case in point - every year it bombards me with hype, some years I fall for it and find a 2 day event - at best - stretched over 3, that whichever day I make the 300mile round trip I feel I should have been the day before , or after , and end up watching a bunch of MGs and Jags qualify for what seems like hours and never get to see the T70s on the poster as only one turned up and it broke . Or the race starts at 6pm,with an afternoon spent watching MGs and Jags . Again .


Geography is an issue too - while many feel happy enough (and why not ?) to load up the trailer , take the ferry or tunnel and drive to a distant circuit it is sad when circuits like Croft or Cadwell are dismissed as if they were somewhere in the Shetlands rather than ,in Croft's case, another 2hours listening to the radio on the A1 . Cadwell can be fiddlier for some, but as it is comfortably our prettiest circuit, and a joy to drive (or simply to spectate) it is always worth it.
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Old 29 Aug 2019, 07:10 (Ref:3924594)   #33
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What with the heat and the holiday traffic, I gave this and Brands a miss and went to Castle Combe instead. 12 races, huge crowd, great atmosphere, wonderful mix of cars modern and not so modern through to minis and midgets. Combe is mostly debris fencing free and the banks are just yards from the track so spectating is real old style. I had a fine day from breakfast in the paddock until the last race. Cost me all of a tenner.
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Old 29 Aug 2019, 08:16 (Ref:3924597)   #34
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Yep along with CSCC aswell.Big grids,to big in some cases with reserves, lovely cars, cracking racing, decent croud and all at a fraction of what you'd pay for Oulton Historic or Donington Historic
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Old 29 Aug 2019, 10:41 (Ref:3924617)   #35
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I must admit to being horrified at VSCC price at Brands - I arrived on Sat pm for CSCC on Sun/Mon , decided to watch the old cars but I was shocked at 25 quid ticket and also charging for grandstand . For cars I can see at Harewood for a tenner, and with no racing per se until mid afternoon .



Don't know the CSCC going rate as I get a freebie but I am sure it's far , far better value .
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Old 29 Aug 2019, 12:12 (Ref:3924636)   #36
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I think the VSCC and Brands both acted pretty dishonestly by promising so much but not publicising what a poor event it was going to be after they cut so much of the advertised content. Prices should have been reduced and people told well ahead what to expect. Bad show all round
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I must admit to being horrified at VSCC price at Brands - I arrived on Sat pm for CSCC on Sun/Mon , decided to watch the old cars but I was shocked at 25 quid ticket and also charging for grandstand . For cars I can see at Harewood for a tenner, and with no racing per se until mid afternoon .



Don't know the CSCC going rate as I get a freebie but I am sure it's far , far better value .

CSCC for non stop racing spanning from 50 to late 00s was 16 quid on the gate. I imagine about 12 online. Not bad .
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Circuit admission prices are almost always set by the circuits themselves for club-type meetings - they take all the gate proceeds.
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Circuit admission prices are almost always set by the circuits themselves for club-type meetings - they take all the gate proceeds.
Exactly! We’ve got varying ticket prices being quoted for OP HSCC, BH VSCC and BH CSCC, with both circuits owned by MSV! As they are all club meetings I really am surprised that prices are not on parr or at least close to...... I’m going to check on prices at Snett for AMOC this w/end, and see what they are.

16 for adult on the gate. (one day meeting) presume was 12 in advance, as is the VSCC meeting in Sept and MGCC meeting beginning of October......

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Exactly! Weve got varying ticket prices being quoted for OP HSCC, BH VSCC and BH CSCC, with both circuits owned by MSV! As they are all club meetings I really am surprised that prices are not on parr or at least close to...... Im going to check on prices at Snett for AMOC this w/end, and see what they are.

16 for adult on the gate. (one day meeting) presume was 12 in advance, as is the VSCC meeting in Sept and MGCC meeting beginning of October......
All club meets such as CSCC,MSVR,BRSCC and smaller HSCC are all the same price at MSV tracks anyway.

They have risen in last couple of years annoyingly.
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I think the VSCC and Brands both acted pretty dishonestly by promising so much but not publicising what a poor event it was going to be after they cut so much of the advertised content. Prices should have been reduced and people told well ahead what to expect. Bad show all round
Totally agree. We bought in advance for 20 and that was to much for what was there. Really poor show from VSCC and Brands.
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All club meets such as CSCC,MSVR,BRSCC and smaller HSCC are all the same price at MSV tracks anyway.
So why was VSCC more then?
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So why was VSCC more then?
Because it was billed as a big meeting by brands probably.Prices vary at Brands for example DTM has higher prices thsn British Gt even though both are big meets.

VSCC should have had tje club meet treatment.Perhaps all parties yhough it have more interest as a meeting.
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So why was VSCC more then?
I do know that the VSCC generally negotiate a cut of the gate money for theur meetings, which may add to the overall cost.
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Perhaps giving the spectators who were basically ripped off a free ticket to the next VSCC meeting at Brands?
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