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Old 4 Sep 2019, 12:14 (Ref:3925773)   #91
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Thanks, so no action for first and second transgressions, and warning flag after third.
Yes - it seems that the main concern was about lap times being set during Q, rather than gaining an advantage during the race.
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Old 4 Sep 2019, 12:25 (Ref:3925778)   #92
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Yup, it’s the same at club level nowadays. Main concern is qualifying time, or consistently cutting a corner (or corners) during the race. Again, usually a warning before penalty applied!
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Old 4 Sep 2019, 17:19 (Ref:3925833)   #93
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So glad Leclerc finally got his first win. Apart from that brief trip across the runoff, he was faultless and I understand how hard it was to get that maiden win after his friend Hubert’s death less than 24 hours before. It’s a credit to everyone that they managed to race in difficult circumstances

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Old 6 Sep 2019, 12:00 (Ref:3926189)   #94
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Thanks, so no action for first and second transgressions, and warning flag after third. I’m not that bothered that I’m going to watch replays to see if any driver got warned.......
As it transpires, one driver did receive a black/white flag for exceeding track limits repeatedly - Pierre Gasly.

Black and White Flag to be used more.
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Old 6 Sep 2019, 13:14 (Ref:3926204)   #95
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As it transpires, one driver did receive a black/white flag for exceeding track limits repeatedly - Pierre Gasly.

Black and White Flag to be used more.
Thanks. I am surprised it’s not been used for several seasons. Certainly has at lower levels! Not acknowledged by every driver, of course......
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Old 6 Sep 2019, 17:44 (Ref:3926242)   #96
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So it’s now going to be an official yellow card according to Masi
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Thanks. I am surprised it’s not been used for several seasons. Certainly has at lower levels! Not acknowledged by every driver, of course......
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So it’s now going to be an official yellow card according to Masi
Makes sense given his background with Supercars where it's been used for some years now quite effectively. Better to give drivers a warning on some things when it's getting close to "the edge" and managing the situation rather than penalising or addressing with drivers at the next race.
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Old 7 Sep 2019, 06:54 (Ref:3926307)   #98
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So it’s now going to be an official yellow card according to Masi
It's a bit disappointing that they have chosen to refer to the flag as a 'yellow card'.

It's a black and white flag, which indicates a warning. No need to refer to it as a different colour (officially or otherwise).

True fans and casual fans alike will know what it means, without having to refer to a feature of other sports. It's been in existence for quite a while now, just not used very much.
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No one else has a problem with referring to it as a yellow card though
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No one else has a problem with referring to it as a yellow card though
That's fine - each to their own. Can you be certain though that no one else has a problem, or just that you are not aware of anyone?

I'm just of the mindset that, historically there has been no need to refer to it as a yellow card so why start doing so now?
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That's fine - each to their own. Can you be certain though that no one else has a problem, or just that you are not aware of anyone?

I'm just of the mindset that, historically there has been no need to refer to it as a yellow card so why start doing so now?

I don't see any mention in the press report that it is going to be referred to as a yellow card. This is what Masi is quoted as saying:

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“One of the reasons I haven’t used it to date was trying to find out off as many of them why it stopped being used, and no one can come up with a valid reason. It’s one of the flags that exist in the code. Every single sporting director and every single driver is supportive of the use of it. It’s effectively the motorsport version of a yellow card.
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The flag could be used for “a range of [things]”, said Masi. “Squeezing drivers, moving under brakes, all those types of things. But we see it effectively as motorsport’s version of a yellow car, to put it in football terms.”
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I don't see any mention in the press report that it is going to be referred to as a yellow card.
Agreed - it seems to be just within this forum that it has been referred to as being an 'official yellow card'.
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