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Old 9 Sep 2019, 17:43 (Ref:3926961)   #166
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I just can't see Grosjean as being anything other than out - period. Surely? (Unless he has a back pocket full of dosh, of course?). .
I thought the same last year tbh. As for the cash I dont think so.
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Old 10 Sep 2019, 10:43 (Ref:3927132)   #167
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Got to see the highlights package today and looked like a good race. Mr Leclerc really has been able to show what he can do here and at Spa and the adulation from the Tifosi was really something else.

He's a future star, no doubt about it.
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Old 10 Sep 2019, 14:12 (Ref:3927170)   #168
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It was a good race. Leclerc really had to defend, good job he and the Ferrari held it all together, he showed at Spa he could win in any half decent car. I think he’s already a big star
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Old 10 Sep 2019, 19:10 (Ref:3927221)   #169
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He's a future star, no doubt about it.
not sure there's a need for "future" in that statement. the lad is a legend to ferrari supporters already, the rest of us'll catch up sooner or later
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Old 10 Sep 2019, 19:45 (Ref:3927227)   #170
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not sure there's a need for "future" in that statement. the lad is a legend to ferrari supporters already, the rest of us'll catch up sooner or later
You're probably right there - certainly after the weekend.
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Old 12 Sep 2019, 17:30 (Ref:3927596)   #171
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not sure there's a need for "future" in that statement. the lad is a legend to ferrari supporters already, the rest of us'll catch up sooner or later
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Old 12 Sep 2019, 21:11 (Ref:3927626)   #172
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He’s certainly getting there, he just needs to cut out a few of those tiny errors we saw at Monza
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What a great last couple races. Really, a great string of races ever since the dud at Paul ricard.

Leclerc may have been on the edge of fair, but he had to do what he did defending against Hamilton. Even more important, he went wheel to wheel, hard racing, and came out better. With no spin or off. Something Vettel hasn't been able to do for over a year now. He laid down the standard against Hamilton. He won't get pushed around or intimidated. Even if he was penalized, he would have given notice to hamilton that it won't be as easy as it seemingly has been against vettel.

Vettel seems broken. He has always seemed like the type that needed a car suited for him more so than a hamilton or Alonso type that could take any type of car and wring the best out of it. He has been dealing with an inept team for a few years now. He can't just trust that their strategy/design/inputs are spot on like at red bull or how Mercedes operates.

Odd timing I know, but I've been meaning to pose the question for a while now: is Ferrari the worst performing f1 team on a per dollar basis? For all the resources and built in advantages they have, they should be better than they are. These last 2 races are more anomaly than indicative of future performance, imo, considering the straight line advantage and tracks. And even with that, Mercedes was still right on them in the race. They have had quality control issues that have been apparent and recurrent for years now.

Having said that, they have a superstar in the making with leclerc. He and verstappen should be a great rivalry for a long time. He's the most humble seeming racer I've seen in f1. Always quick to take responsibility for his mistakes, and call himself out. Takes a quiet sort of confidence underneath to be able to call out yourself in front of everyone for all your mistakes like he does.
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Old 18 Sep 2019, 07:21 (Ref:3928634)   #174
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IDK, Leclerc did have to skip across the first chicane at one point. And he got a black white flag for what he did to Hamilton, whereas Vettel lost a win for what he did in Canada...
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IDK, Leclerc did have to skip across the first chicane at one point. And he got a black white flag for what he did to Hamilton, whereas Vettel lost a win for what he did in Canada...
I thought both incidents were similar.
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Old 18 Sep 2019, 08:32 (Ref:3928650)   #176
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I’d say what Leclerc did was worst, then again he might have been helped by being in Italy
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IDK, Leclerc did have to skip across the first chicane at one point. And he got a black white flag for what he did to Hamilton, whereas Vettel lost a win for what he did in Canada...
Well, I thought the penalty on vettel was bogus.

But psychologically, I think it's better that leclerc pushed the limits to the point of a black and white flag and kept the lead, holding off Hamilton, whereas every time vettel goes wheel to wheel lately he ends up spinning or losing ground. He "served notice" so to speak. It won't be as easy for hamilton against him as it has been against vettel.

By the way, for someone who says they want the wheel to battles with these guys, hamilton sure is quick to cry on the radio about something the other driver does... Granted, they all do, but maybe quit saying you want these battles so much then?
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By the way, for someone who says they want the wheel to battles with these guys, hamilton sure is quick to cry on the radio about something the other driver does... Granted, they all do, but maybe quit saying you want these battles so much then?
Just maybe the TV broadcast more of his whinges because of the effect they know it has.
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Very likely.

It'll be interesting though the next time LH and CL go wheel to wheel. Hamilton has the title sown up as have Mercedes. I would expect LH to return the 'serving of notice' to the young pretender......
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