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Old 6 Sep 2019, 17:25 (Ref:3926239)   #16
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Verstappen and Norris will get a penalty I think.
Albon won't since he took it last race.
Sainz and the Renault guys also won't have one since they took a new engine last race but did not use it in the race (just in a practice session)
Ah, cheers for that clarification! I'm easily confused...

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Old 7 Sep 2019, 01:55 (Ref:3926293)   #17
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I'm really looking forward to this, two classic tracks back to back.
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Old 7 Sep 2019, 06:26 (Ref:3926305)   #18
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Just trying to work out who has engine change penalties. Norris definitely, and looks like Sainz is swapping to Spec C engine for the race as well...

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/s...monza/4531400/

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Old 7 Sep 2019, 10:05 (Ref:3926321)   #19
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Slightly off topic, (mods feel free to move elsewhere)but after last weekend at Spa.... As this relates to track/ runoff hazards that the F1 cars will face this weekend, I posted here
This huge crash in this morning's F3 Monza race just did not look right..... no kerb should ever launch a car like this. Especially at Parabolica given the speeds they are travelling.

Peroni hit a curb in the asphalt run-off at the exit of the Parabolica and was launched high into the air before landing upside-down on the barriers. He was bloody lucky not to have been injured the way it landed on the barriers. Fortunately Peroni walked to the meds under his own stem.
(I know he is an Aussie driver, but we dont normally drive round upside down!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n7Z4L7XB_Y

Edit: A friend of mine actually there today at Monza says the sausage kerb responsible is being removed at this moment. 10 minute delay for P3 start as a result.

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Old 7 Sep 2019, 10:19 (Ref:3926325)   #20
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Yes, fp3 started late in order to remove that kerb.
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Old 7 Sep 2019, 11:49 (Ref:3926334)   #21
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That was an insane crash. I think should trigger examination of the design and placement of that style of curb beyond just that corner. I wonder if they are not designed to be hit on that leading edge like that.

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Do circuits / FiA / F1 ever carry out ‘Risk Assessments’ like industry and commercial businesses have to? If so, whoever did the one for that kerb placement needs a good talking to......

(I’ve toned the last sentence down a bit!)
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Old 7 Sep 2019, 12:42 (Ref:3926341)   #23
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fwiw, the kerb's been there all year. so there's been a number of series race there and nobody's gone "er, that's a bit dodgy isn't it?".
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Old 7 Sep 2019, 13:58 (Ref:3926354)   #24
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fwiw, the kerb's been there all year. so there's been a number of series race there and nobody's gone "er, that's a bit dodgy isn't it?".
The sausage kerbs? People have been saying they're dodgy for years.
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Old 7 Sep 2019, 14:04 (Ref:3926357)   #25
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i'm referring to that one, in that place, parallel to the track. and just pointing out that there's been plenty of opportunities for it to be assessed and removed in the past. that's all.
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Old 7 Sep 2019, 14:14 (Ref:3926359)   #26
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I'm not doing the "I told you so" dance, because I'm just an idiot on the internet. But I don't see why that specific kerb is the problem we're talking about. We put lumps on race tracks and are surprised that cars come off the ground when they hit those lumps at speed?

It's happened quite a few times. It's also why we don't have massive apex kerbs anymore - so cars can't hit them and launch. So we've moved the problem to corner exits instead?

Remove that kerb. Fine. But this isn't the first accident that's happened due to sausage kerbs. It's just the scariest. Remove them all.
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Old 7 Sep 2019, 14:17 (Ref:3926360)   #27
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Some close racing in Q3 there lol.

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Yeah I think I missed something, like an entire lap!
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F1 may have reached peak farce.

Lewis seems to think its on purpose. But he hung back a lot longer than Ferrari. He was out of time before he even reached the end of S1.

Also, the TV director is playing with the sounds again. The boos are being picked up by the microphone and he's playing with the volume of external mics.
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