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Old 21 Jun 2015, 22:01 (Ref:3552830)   #16
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And I'm sure the CR65s don't last as long as they used to. My past two sets have been spanked in 2 races (with a ratty MGB)
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Old 22 Jun 2015, 14:09 (Ref:3553036)   #17
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just to clear this up

Avon performing against Dunlop

I did not mean how the actual tires compare
I meant supply and availability

What i meant was that in the championships where Avons are compulsory such as CF3 DBT and HFO
everey competitor can be sure to get the Avon tires that he needs

in general economic terms:
if somebody is granted the advantage of a monopoly by legal bodies, this is always on the assumption that in return for the economic advantage supply is then assured by the beneficiary of the monopoly

as i said: the situation is scandalous and Dunlop should be barred as monopoly protected supplier of control tires for a year or two until they clean up their act

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Old 22 Jun 2015, 14:45 (Ref:3553048)   #18
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Old 22 Jun 2015, 14:45 (Ref:3553049)   #19
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Yes fair point - this is supposed to be about supply and the current monopoly that exists (that I too don't understand!); the choice that has been made for us certainly isn't based on performance though...
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Old 22 Jun 2015, 15:38 (Ref:3553071)   #20
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I see elsewhere that the Mini 7 and Miglia crowd are also experiencing severe difficulties in getting tyres, and Dunlop sponsor them!
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Old 22 Jun 2015, 16:39 (Ref:3553086)   #21
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I had a long conversation with someone who has worked first hand
with both British and Portuguese Dunlops.

In short, the quality can be very poor and they are different.

I bought a set of new L's for my B last week. To my surprise they were
UK stock!
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Old 22 Jun 2015, 20:33 (Ref:3553146)   #22
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I had a long conversation with someone who has worked first hand
with both British and Portuguese Dunlops.

In short, the quality can be very poor and they are different.

I bought a set of new L's for my B last week. To my surprise they were
UK stock!
Is there a way to tell the difference?
The only new Portugese tyres I have used self-destructed after 45 mins!
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Old 22 Jun 2015, 22:17 (Ref:3553173)   #23
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Is there a way to tell the difference?
The only new Portugese tyres I have used self-destructed after 45 mins!
The chap who buffs my tyres identified my latest set as being from local stock.

He said that the carcass is different and the quality differs significantly from tyre to tyre. He spends most of his time trying to make then roundish.

Both are marked as made in the UK. Perhaps as a homage to all our tax money we paid to relocate a British factory and jobs to Portugal.
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Old 22 Jun 2015, 22:26 (Ref:3553178)   #24
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Wasn't it as a result of Jaguar Land Rover offering a small fortune for the land upon which Dunlop MS was based in Castle Bromwich?

In any case, I'm not looking having to go back to the "normal tyre" we use in Germany having raced on Avon CR6ZZs for the first time this season. Last longer and much more predictable (I'm sure CR65s were more fun a few years ago?)

I am right in saying there are equivalent historic Michelins and Goodyears etc that are kind to old car's suspension? Why isn't there more competition for supply deals? is it worth it for the other manufacturers?
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Old 23 Jun 2015, 05:06 (Ref:3553227)   #25
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Michelin TB15s-brilliant.Goodyears Bluestreak is also very good-used to be used as a wet tyre years ago but not used them in the wet, yet!!
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Old 23 Jun 2015, 07:09 (Ref:3553237)   #26
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The chap who buffs my tyres identified my latest set as being from local stock.

He said that the carcass is different and the quality differs significantly from tyre to tyre. He spends most of his time trying to make then roundish.

Both are marked as made in the UK. Perhaps as a homage to all our tax money we paid to relocate a British factory and jobs to Portugal.
Oh bloody marvellous!
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I think Dunlops enjoyed a lot of goodwill from organisers, rulemakers and competitors because:

- they were the period supplier,
- because they were able to supply R5s, Ls and Ms,
- from the original moulds made to original specifications (!)
- and because it was so simple to put Dunlops as spec tire into the rules without a second thought

the reasons for this goodwill have vanished
they might still use the original moulds
but not with the skills and quality assurance processes necessary to come up with an acceptable product

as i have said before
give niche specialists such as Avon or Blockleys a chance to show that they can do better

i am tired of going round, begging, borrowing recycling Dunlop tires
and besing fobbed off with excuses that sound increasingly lame

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Oh bloody marvellous!

The advice I was given was don't throw away your old L's get them shaved.

I can put you in contact with the chap if you would like to discuss things directly?
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We all have Dunlops sat in our garages that we are loathe to throw away. That would be extremely useful Simes.

(Did you enjoy the weather on Saturday by the way?!)
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We all have Dunlops sat in our garages that we are loathe to throw away. That would be extremely useful Simes.

(Did you enjoy the weather on Saturday by the way?!)
The opening lap was OK, up to 3rd, then the heavens opened and my "its going to get dryer" set up made progress a little tricky!

How about yourself?
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