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Old 3 Nov 2002, 23:23 (Ref:421022)   #1
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JIMMY WINS! Did Green-Whino Racing try to ruin the Race?

Mikey in front, Mr. Judd blowing his engine for several laps & then parks on the racing surface instead of pulling off the track. On top of the obvious BS with PT, this smacks of collusion. Thank God it didn't work ! CONGRATS JIMMY! How will TG find a way to give the Irrelevant500 to Whino after he blows his engine next year?
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Old 3 Nov 2002, 23:28 (Ref:421030)   #2
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Yeah, that is pretty suspicious.... but, you think they would have known they'd red flag it. Oh well, I'm just glad Michael didn't win and it's good to see Jimmy still has something left.
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Old 3 Nov 2002, 23:39 (Ref:421040)   #3
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Suspicious... but Vasser won!
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Old 3 Nov 2002, 23:43 (Ref:421043)   #4
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What Dario did was totally uncalled for. Had the order been reversed, Vasser leading with Andretti second, you can bet Dario would of found an out of the way place to park it. I hope CART fines him, BIG! Talents such as he displayed today will be much more appreciated over in the GIRL(George's Indy Race League).

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Old 3 Nov 2002, 23:50 (Ref:421050)   #5
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Maybe... maybe... maybe it was unintentional.. who knows?
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Old 4 Nov 2002, 00:03 (Ref:421059)   #6
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What Rahal said on Speed was pretty classic "You know that was a real Bush league move on Darios part" I hope Mr. Judd enjoys his stay at the ultimate bush league next year. I think this was deliberate no question and CART should fine the bas***d.
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Old 4 Nov 2002, 00:04 (Ref:421060)   #7
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I haven't seen it, but have heard about it, and I think it's disgusting behaviour, but seeing how Team Green have been acting lately, I wouldn't put anything past them.

My opinion of Dario took another fall after pulling antics like that, while Mikey obviously needs to be handed victories as he can't win them by himself.
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Old 4 Nov 2002, 00:20 (Ref:421075)   #8
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If Dario did it on purpose than he is an idiot.

Had it stayed green Andretti would have stood an excellent chance of winning. If it finishes yellow than Franchitti looks like a jerk. If it goes red than, as we saw, Vasser wins easily.

When DaMatta stayed on track in Laguna Seca with his blown engine he benefitted from his evilness. Dario's situation was different, he had nothing personally to gain, and as I have said, it didn't even help his team. So if Dario did it on purpose he is both evil and stupid.

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Old 4 Nov 2002, 00:49 (Ref:421089)   #9
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or maybe since there was only a few laps to go he was trying to stick with it and try to salvage a points finish, it wouldnt be the first time someone's done that on an oval.
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Old 4 Nov 2002, 00:55 (Ref:421093)   #10
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Arneal from previous years Darios actions would have helped his team. Last year CART would have just waved the yellow flag and Mikey would have won under the yellow. This was the first time that this rule change was used this year so maybe someone in the Dario camp forgot about this. In my opinion Dario could of atleast driven the car off the apron and into a runoff area. Don't forget Dario, Mikey, and to a lesser extent Tony are pretty paranoid these days because of their defection next year. They blame their performance on CART and feel mistreated so why wouldn't Dario know he's about to blow and park his car on the apron on purpose knowing the event may end in a yellow and his spoiled whiney boss would win.
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Old 4 Nov 2002, 01:29 (Ref:421100)   #11
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Rahal certainly believed he did it deliberately. I personally think it was entirely too dangerous a move for him to have pulled it deliberately. I do believe that Kim Green told him to stay out as long as he could, hoping the race would finish under yellow or Vasser would somehow trip over him, but looking at that fire I don't think Dario was worried about where he parked.

I think it is time these people cleared out though as they are poisoning the atmosphere big time.
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Old 4 Nov 2002, 05:23 (Ref:421162)   #12
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I can't believe how acidic most of the postings in this thread are against those guys who are leaving the series! I think you folks need to back off with your poison darts a bit. Give Andretti credit for running a great race (and Jimmy and even greater one), and give Dario the benefit of the doubt for parking his flaming car where he saw fit in order to evacuate. I really doubt these paranoid conspiracies that are alluded to have any merit. I, for one, really enjoyed the race.... why all this negativity, folks?

And, I enjoyed Tony's compliments to the Speed TV crew. I feel the same as he that they have done a superb job enlightening and entertaining us viewers. Tony, I will miss your good natured soul on the broadcasts next year.
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I'll wait until it is shown on TV down here (next thursday night ) but i'm with Liz on this one, there would have been a huge risk in doing what is being suggested. I'm assuming that oil would have been dumped all over the place, that would hardly give Michael an advantage, he would be first on the scene of an oil slick. As i said i'll wait to see it for myself though.

Sounds like an awesome race, can't wait to see it.
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Old 4 Nov 2002, 07:38 (Ref:421204)   #14
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Next thurs racer69? It says this thurs in the TV guide for Perth, 12:30am.
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Old 4 Nov 2002, 08:58 (Ref:421235)   #15
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I meant the next thursday coming up, meaning this thursday, actually technically it's friday
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