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Old 12 Oct 2003, 23:19 (Ref:748811)   #31
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That's another thing- who said that it was only an issue when running close to other cars. Errrm, how do you stay away from cars when lapping them?
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Old 12 Oct 2003, 23:26 (Ref:748821)   #32
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Well it depends on who you listen to...you obviously can't try and lap Wilson if your names Barwanna.

You can't try and pass Brad Jones if your names Bargwanna.

And if your names Bowe - you should be behind Larry Perkins for the entire race...
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Old 12 Oct 2003, 23:30 (Ref:748830)   #33
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At least people won't say that the stewards favour HRT now.
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Old 12 Oct 2003, 23:44 (Ref:748842)   #34
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Arghhhhhhhh - this has nothing to do with the stewards.....this was a race control decision.

Which is where motor racing in this country has gone wrong - stewards should NOT repeat NOT NEVER (however you want to say it) be in race control during a race....
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Old 13 Oct 2003, 00:34 (Ref:748878)   #35
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As a HRT fan ( ducks the flying projectiles) i think yes they should have been called in to repair it. but FFS bring him in when it happens not 10 laps later, that was a total cluster f@#k by race control. at least the preceident has now been fairly set and this penalty should now become automatic if ever the same thing happens.

For those who say that they should have " just come in and fixed it" sould you have come in and given up 2nd place in the 1000 when you dont have 2? i dont think so.....

Oh and finally, well done Murph! great weekend all round.

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Old 13 Oct 2003, 00:35 (Ref:748879)   #36
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If you support Holden it was a bad decision

If you support Ford is was a good decision it's a simple as that.

Unless you have a say the decisions then you can say what you what. It only made a difference in his finishing position and Luck dosen't stay with you forever.
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Old 13 Oct 2003, 01:46 (Ref:748912)   #37
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[i]For those who say that they should have " just come in and fixed it" sould you have come in and given up 2nd place in the 1000 when you dont have 2? i dont think so.....[/B]
Yes - these guys are supposedly professional enough to know when something can be dangerous.

They had a safety car period when this could have been done - elected not to, so copped the penalty.

You can bet they would have been one of the first to complain if it had been Murhpy's door that was flapping...
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Old 13 Oct 2003, 02:03 (Ref:748922)   #38
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You're completely right Racetime, i bet Jeff Grech would have been saying the stewards should have black flagged him straight away if it was Murph.
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Old 13 Oct 2003, 02:55 (Ref:748948)   #39
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Actually, I had a bit of a chuckle when they said Ozemail was also going to protest.

.......ummmm, who caused the problem in the first place?
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Old 13 Oct 2003, 04:11 (Ref:748984)   #40
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Skaife did by turning in on them...front door was damaged on skaifes car, which indicates he should have let them past without turning in on them...
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Old 13 Oct 2003, 05:45 (Ref:749018)   #41
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Skaife did by turning in on them...front door was damaged on skaifes car, which indicates he should have let them past without turning in on them...
Does anyone else think that Andrew Jones (I think it was him but may have been Cleland) MAY have had a peek in his rear view mirror coming into Murray's, MAY have seen that Skaife was in a bad spot and that his team mate JB was right behind him, and MAY have stayed on the brakes fractionally longer than he normally would have?

Skaife was certainly trapped out there, allowing JB to come up the inside of him.

Of course, this is probably a grave misjustice to Andrew Jones, I just thought at the time he looked very slow through there.
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Old 13 Oct 2003, 08:01 (Ref:749087)   #42
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Sounds ridiculous to me Deano, I really don't think there would be too many out there that would race so dirty for 1 position (3 points is it?), and I think its a bit unfair of you to make such claims.
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Old 13 Oct 2003, 09:46 (Ref:749182)   #43
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That's a typical stupid comment Tool man, you are a TOOL!!
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Old 13 Oct 2003, 13:18 (Ref:749432)   #44
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Wow, I wish that we in the UK had some racing that was sufficiently exciting to get this worked up about. Our senior officials would probably have a baby if there was this level of 'comment' directed at them.

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Old 13 Oct 2003, 13:28 (Ref:749461)   #45
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As I've said in another Thread, the only F___up was by Jeff Grech for not bringing MS in during the Safety Car period!!! Obviously being in charge of 3 Race Teams is taking a Toll(excuse the pun) on the poor fellow.
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