1998 36th AMP Bathurst 1000 for Supertourers - Page 2

Crash Test · 3 Aug 2009, 22:59 (Ref:2515041)

Didn't the Crompton NATCC car go to Graeme Dodd? The other one was the ex-Richards machine.

Falcadore · 4 Aug 2009, 02:49 (Ref:2515125)

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Originally Posted by Crash Test

Didn't the Crompton NATCC car go to Graeme Dodd? The other one was the ex-Richards machine.

Absolutely right. If memory serves, the Adderton/GRM Steven Richards car had been a British Motor Sport Developments car. Adderton I wouldn't have thought would have been able to get factory support, the car was never that well funded after it left GRM. The car was associated briefly with British driver Jamie Wall, but after that I dunno. It did have the distinction of being the only privateer car to win a race during the series hayday prior to Paul Morris Nemo Racing series win.

Newman had considerably greater ambitions for his team and after Peugeot said no the story goes that he pulled the Lion badges off and called them... can't emember the name of his team, but it was something to do with the team name.

Adderton driving the Honda Accord came later I think 1998 as the series was starting to wind down, that was after Warren Luff had made his first touring car steps in the car with yellow and purple swirls and FAI signage in late 1997. That Honda was quite old by then and not a serious proposition for factory funding.

Belatedly picked up by what you meant with Adderton, as he had driven the old Foxtel 405s with Geoff Full when Mike Quinn's Phoenix Motorsport ran the cars. Yes those cars were good, but I'm not sure they ever really went after the factory support so much as they had been involved with importing 405 Super Tourers from the very beginning having been involved with the first car to arrive. Peugeot hadn't shown any interest then when that I think Phil Alexander drove briefly at Oran Park before a couple of incidents occurred. The first car got involved in a collision at Bathurst with the Inspired Racing Corolla Seca at the top of Conrod Straight and was retired in favour of a new car which was later destroyed tragically at Phillip Island. The first car was pressed back into service until a third car arrived in time for the team's expansion with Geoff Full coming on board. They never did a full season with both Peugeots as towards the end of 1996 they got involved with the Vauxhall that Brooke tatnell very briefly ran (owned) which then got some very good result with Russell Ingall driving. One of the Peugeots was stood down to make way for Ingall and the Vauxhall (a James Thompson RML car).

Both the 405s then went to the Newman team that Dwayne Bewley ran for him.

There was another 405 sourced from a different British team that bounced around a few guys, Mike Imrie, I think Craig Lawless and others, which never really recovered after its chassis was damaged after being pulled from the sand trap at Hell Corner in 1994.

racer69 · 4 Aug 2009, 03:54 (Ref:2515146)

The Honda ended its days with Anthony Robson in the latter part of 1999, before Jim Cornish ran it in the 2000/01 series (the only driver to win a race other than Paul Morris)

Adam Kaplan ran his ex-GRM Nissan Primera with Hunter Holden backing (and i presume a Holden badge on it?)

Cal Ballinger · 5 Aug 2009, 06:19 (Ref:2515910)

Does anyone know where I might get a high resolution shot of the A4 and the 405 Mi16?

Falcadore · 17 Oct 2009, 01:36 (Ref:2563046)

Car #60 - Knight Racing - Warren Luff and Mark Zonneveld - Ford Mondeo - DNF

Car #67 - Geoff Short - Geoff Short and Greg Goudie - Ford Telstar - 16th (3rd in Schedules S)

Car #88 - Knight Racing - Peter Hills and Domenic Beninca - Ford Mondeo - Sixth

Car #98 - Knight Racing - Paula Elstrek, Heidi O'Neill and Damien Digby - Ford Mondeo - DNF

Falcadore · 17 Oct 2009, 03:06 (Ref:2563055)

Car #10 - TC Motorsport - Tony Newman and Mark Williamson - Peugeot 406 - DNF

Car #18 - Aaron McGill - Aaron McGill and Clayton Haynes - Peugeot 405 - DNF

Car #23 - MF Motorsport - Mike Fitzgerald and Jenni Thompson - Peugeot 405 - DNF

Car #62 - BT Motorsport - Bill Tunzelmann and <alcolm Udy - Peugeot 405 (Schedule S) - DNF

Falcadore · 17 Oct 2009, 03:43 (Ref:2563064)

Car #15 - Nigel Barclay - Mark Adderton and Jamie Wall - Honda Accord - DNF

Car #29 - Brookes Motorsport - Robb Gravett and Lee Brookes - Honda Accord - DNF

Car #33 - Burwood Motorsport - Allan Letcher and Adam Macrow - Honda Civic (Group E) - DNF

Car #68 - Wayne Johnson - Wayne Johnson and Maurice O'Reilly - Honda Integra (Schedule S) - DNF (not classified - running at the finish, too few laps)

Rob Bailey · 17 Oct 2009, 05:22 (Ref:2563080)

As a race,I must say I enjoyed it.

ForumNick · 17 Oct 2009, 23:35 (Ref:2563443)

How many finished?
There are a lot of DNFs in that list!

racer69 · 18 Oct 2009, 04:47 (Ref:2563501)

18 finishes from 42 starters

Falcadore · 18 Oct 2009, 05:32 (Ref:2563509)

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Originally Posted by ForumNick

How many finished?
There are a lot of DNFs in that list!

18 finishers, seven of them were BMWs.

D.R.T. · 18 Oct 2009, 05:43 (Ref:2563511)

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Originally Posted by Rob Bailey

As a race,I must say I enjoyed it.

One of the best 1000's in it's history

dougcharli · 18 Oct 2009, 08:20 (Ref:2563541)

Bring it back, to see the variety of cars, and drivers, and the potential of a "full" bathurst grid, would be spectacular.

rdmdog · 18 Oct 2009, 08:23 (Ref:2563544)

Does the 12 hour not fill this void now?

David Towe · 18 Oct 2009, 08:43 (Ref:2563556)

Has anyone got a video of the race? Was one ever released for sale?

Falcadore · 18 Oct 2009, 12:37 (Ref:2563634)

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Originally Posted by rdmdog

Does the 12 hour not fill this void now?

Yes. No.

Production cars aren't touring cars. They don't move the same, the don't look the same, there is a level of aggression between the two.

Crash Test · 18 Oct 2009, 21:55 (Ref:2564089)

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Originally Posted by Falcadore

The 1998 Vauxhalls...
Car #25 - Rodney Jones - Mike Newton and Jamie Miller - Vauxhall Cavalier - Eighteenth

I ♥ that photo... top stuff!

Green Hornet · 19 Oct 2009, 00:59 (Ref:2564183)

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Originally Posted by dougcharli

Bring it back, to see the variety of cars, and drivers, and the potential of a "full" bathurst grid, would be spectacular.

Yes as spectacular as it was then . . . when nobody turned up to watch.

mite5255 · 19 Oct 2009, 05:52 (Ref:2564258)

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Originally Posted by David Towe

Has anyone got a video of the race? Was one ever released for sale?

hi david....i think i may have the 98 super tourers on tape,i know i have 97,so today i went looking,wellllll this is were the story gets interesting,i went to the cabinet were i keep my bathurst tapes and some are missing so when the wife come home i asked if she has seen them,she just smiled and said no,i said you know something,she's still grinning like a Cheshire cat and i'm thinking somethings going on here and i suspect that over a period of time she's getting them put on dvd........well i sure hope thats it lol ......so david if 98 is in the lot thats missing i'll let you know
regards mike

Craner Curves · 19 Oct 2009, 06:29 (Ref:2564262)

Duke Video sell the highlights video.

mite5255 · 19 Oct 2009, 06:36 (Ref:2564266)

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Originally Posted by mite5255

hi david....i think i may have the 98 super tourers on tape,i know i have 97,so today i went looking,wellllll this is were the story gets interesting,i went to the cabinet were i keep my bathurst tapes and some are missing so when the wife come home i asked if she has seen them,she just smiled and said no,i said you know something,she's still grinning like a Cheshire cat and i'm thinking somethings going on here and i suspect that over a period of time she's getting them put on dvd........well i sure hope thats it lol ......so david if 98 is in the lot thats missing i'll let you know
regards mike

wife just admitted that for xmass this year our son is getting all my tapes put onto dvd,she's not real pleased that i went to the cabinet oops.....i have been instructed to stay well clear of the tapes and to ask no more questions......so david if and when i get everything back and if i do have the 98 on tape and if you still need it i'll send you a copy

regards mike

ForumNick · 19 Oct 2009, 06:57 (Ref:2564270)

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Originally Posted by mite5255

hi david....i think i may have the 98 super tourers on tape,i know i have 97,so today i went looking,wellllll this is were the story gets interesting,i went to the cabinet were i keep my bathurst tapes and some are missing so when the wife come home i asked if she has seen them,she just smiled and said no,i said you know something,she's still grinning like a Cheshire cat and i'm thinking somethings going on here and i suspect that over a period of time she's getting them put on dvd........well i sure hope thats it lol ......so david if 98 is in the lot thats missing i'll let you know
regards mike

Or maybe she taped over them!!! ... with something VERY IMPORTANT!

like... Days of our Lives... or McLeod's Daughters

mite5255 · 19 Oct 2009, 07:01 (Ref:2564274)

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Originally Posted by ForumNick

Or maybe she taped over them!!! ... with something VERY IMPORTANT!

like... Days of our Lives... or McLeod's Daughters

man i sure hope not

David Towe · 19 Oct 2009, 08:42 (Ref:2564324)

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Originally Posted by mite5255

hi david....i think i may have the 98 super tourers on tape,i know i have 97,so today i went looking,wellllll this is were the story gets interesting,i went to the cabinet were i keep my bathurst tapes and some are missing so when the wife come home i asked if she has seen them,she just smiled and said no,i said you know something,she's still grinning like a Cheshire cat and i'm thinking somethings going on here and i suspect that over a period of time she's getting them put on dvd........well i sure hope thats it lol ......so david if 98 is in the lot thats missing i'll let you know
regards mike

It would be nice if that's what the missus is doing, very thoughtful. Thanks Craner, I'll look for it. I was there that year and had a ball being a BMW nut.

rdmdog · 19 Oct 2009, 10:50 (Ref:2564431)

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Originally Posted by Falcadore

Yes. No.

Production cars aren't touring cars. They don't move the same, the don't look the same, there is a level of aggression between the two.

Totally agree mate, and I'm no big fan of Road cars on the race track, but if people want to do an endurance race at Bathurst in what they keep proposing (production cars) then they can do it at the 12 hour!

If half of the people who complain about how V8s should be run attended other forms of Motor sport then they would get a little more credence form me!

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