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View Poll Results: Who will win the SCA Bathurst 1000 in 2020?
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#2 Fullwood/K.Kostecki WAU Holden
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#3 Jones/Blanchard BJR Holden
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#4 Smith/Perkins BJR Holden
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#5 Holdsworth/Caruso Tickford Ford
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#6 Waters/W.Davison Tickford Ford
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19.35% |
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#7 Heimgartner/O’Keeffe KR Ford
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#8 Percat/Randle BJR Holden
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3.23% |
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#9 Reynolds/Brown Erebus Holden
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#12 Coulthard/D’Alberto DJRTP Ford
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3.23% |
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#14 Hazelwood/Boys BJR Holden
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#15 Kelly/Wood KR Ford
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#17 McLaughlin/Slade DJRTP Ford
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6 |
19.35% |
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#18 Winterbottom/Golding T18 Holden
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#19 A.Davison/Webb TSR Holden
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#20 Pye/Fiore T18 Holden
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#22 Pither/Owen TSR Holden
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#25 Mostert/Luff WAU Holden
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3.23% |
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#34 J.Kostecki/Goddard MSR Holden
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#35 Jacobson/Russell MSR Holden
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#40 Everingham/Ojeda/Herne GRM Holden
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3.23% |
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#44 Courtney/Feeney Tickford Ford
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3.23% |
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#55 LeBrocq/Moffat Tickford Ford
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#97 Van Gisbergen/Tander 888 Holden
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19.35% |
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#99 dePasquale/B.Kostecki Erebus Holden
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#888 Whincup/Lowndes 888 Holden
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22.58% |
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7 Oct 2020, 00:42 (Ref:4008924)
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Racer
Join Date: Jan 2009
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I assume the unlapping cars will be free to go full noise as they pass the safety car. But what's the point? Now we have a group of (probably) slower cars, and in a few laps the faster pack is gonna be backing up behind them.
Might be a long day for the SC driver...
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7 Oct 2020, 01:26 (Ref:4008926)
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#17
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Couple of driver opinions are up on speedcafe.
Point has been made about the "buffer" of lapped cars between say 1st and 2nd being removed after working ontrack to pass those cars and creating that buffer.
But yeah, I'm more thinking how quickly the fast guys at the front will catch the slower cars and have to get passed them again. Not really fixing anything, only delaying the mix up of fast and slower drivers.
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7 Oct 2020, 03:25 (Ref:4008933)
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#18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tux
They got those soft tyres that let everyone win?
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Not at Bathurst, because they would explode unfortunately! Hard tyres only for Bathurst due to the high loads.
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7 Oct 2020, 06:14 (Ref:4008940)
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#19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blaarg
...and when do the unlapping cars get the green flag? Presumably at the start/finish line, but after the lead pack takes the green or before?
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I reckon they will be running hard from the moment they pass the SC to catch up as much as they can.
They are certainly not going to be continuing at SC speed, or even close to, once they are waved past. 
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7 Oct 2020, 08:30 (Ref:4008958)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ford71
But yeah, I'm more thinking how quickly the fast guys at the front will catch the slower cars and have to get passed them again. Not really fixing anything, only delaying the mix up of fast and slower drivers.
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How quickly will that happen though? What is the difference in lap time between a front runner and back marker in the series?
Given the other options, would they have been preferable:
Don't release the lapped cars, and be criticised for having them mixed with the faster cars on the re-start?
Release the lapped cars, but keep the rest of the field behind the SC for longer and be criticised for holding up racing?
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7 Oct 2020, 13:56 (Ref:4008992)
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SO in other words, wait for crash and catch the laps up....hmmmmm not in the spirit for me
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7 Oct 2020, 22:36 (Ref:4009068)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandgroper
SO in other words, wait for crash and catch the laps up....hmmmmm not in the spirit for me
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Unfortunately with the counter-productive co-driver rules, all but the top teams with expensive co-drivers continually fall behind during green flag running...
That rule has been a huge flop IMO.
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7 Oct 2020, 23:01 (Ref:4009074)
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Racer
Join Date: Jun 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by E.B
I reckon they will be running hard from the moment they pass the SC to catch up as much as they can.
They are certainly not going to be continuing at SC speed, or even close to, once they are waved past. |
...also, I wonder at what stage the unlapping cars are permitted to race 'each other', assuming there is more than 1 car unlapping itself?
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8 Oct 2020, 02:59 (Ref:4009089)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by V8 Fireworks
Unfortunately with the counter-productive co-driver rules, all but the top teams with expensive co-drivers continually fall behind during green flag running...
That rule has been a huge flop IMO.
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The rule stopped the teams running a second car with little or no chance of success.
The better co-drivers will always be spanned up by the better teams.
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8 Oct 2020, 23:20 (Ref:4009225)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chavez
The rule stopped the teams running a second car with little or no chance of success.
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I liked the A-team combinations myself! 
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9 Oct 2020, 00:22 (Ref:4009231)
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Originally Posted by V8 Fireworks
I liked the A-team combinations myself! |
Me too
It was another rule introduced for the sake of introducing another rule..... kind of like this stupid new safety car rules giving the lapped cars a leg up....
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9 Oct 2020, 01:29 (Ref:4009232)
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Seems to be an unhealthy obsession to have everyone on the lead lap.
It's an enduro for crying out loud.
There's something amazing about coming from behind.
Think Larry and Russell in 1993
Or Chaz and the Dude in 2014
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9 Oct 2020, 05:40 (Ref:4009250)
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What a shame, the last bathurst for the official Holden Factory Team and no corporates, merch or many spectators...........I guess as many have said, we are lucky to have the race at all.
I said GRMs Livery post on Adcafe has been removed hmmmmmmm
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9 Oct 2020, 05:58 (Ref:4009251)
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Racer
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandgroper
I said GRMs Livery post on Adcafe has been removed hmmmmmmm
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????? It's there now.
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9 Oct 2020, 06:52 (Ref:4009256)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Average Punter
There's something amazing about coming from behind.
Think Larry and Russell in 1993
Or Chaz and the Dude in 2014
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I still don't know how the 2014 one was allowed to stand, in what world can you work on the car under red flag conditions?
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Originally Posted by Backagain
????? It's there now.
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GRM have folded on their challenge about Herne. They literally didn't have a leg to stand on.
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