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Old 19 Dec 2020, 12:33 (Ref:4023888)   #31
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Can you name a junior program that brought more drivers to F1?
And now they re all in Formula E !

I'm joking of course - but clearly something has gone wrong recently. The haphazard promotion / relegation / firing / rehiring / re-firing of Albon, Gasly and Kyvatt.

Pehaps they should have stuck with Sainz? Or perhaps Sainz needed to leave to realise his potential?
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Old 19 Dec 2020, 12:54 (Ref:4023893)   #32
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I quite liked Hartley. They brought him back just so they could sack him again. That's efficiency.
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Old 19 Dec 2020, 13:31 (Ref:4023902)   #33
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Hartley didnít do much wrong, certainly seemed very reliable, but he seemed a bit of a stopgap, as there was no other options available. And yet they bought back Kvyat to replace him...
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Old 19 Dec 2020, 15:19 (Ref:4023917)   #34
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I can’t claim this as my own, but I read the following commentary on the driver moves.

Ex-Red Bull driver replaces ex-Red Bull driver at Ferrari, who is also replaced by an ex-Red Bull driver, while the original ex-Red Bull driver replaces a non-Red Bull driver who becomes a Red Bull driver.

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Old 19 Dec 2020, 15:40 (Ref:4023918)   #35
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sounds like the hokey pokey to be honest
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Old 19 Dec 2020, 16:25 (Ref:4023920)   #36
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Sounds like a load of bull......
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Old 19 Dec 2020, 16:26 (Ref:4023921)   #37
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Horner did drop a comment the other day that although they would not be replacing the Aston Martin title sponsorship...
coincidence that Perez went to the other AM sponsored team?

always a lot going on behind the scenes so who knows but still a nice symmetry here.
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Old 19 Dec 2020, 16:29 (Ref:4023923)   #38
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coincidence that Perez went to the other AM sponsored team?

always a lot going on behind the scenes so who knows but still a nice symmetry here.
There won't be any AM branding at Red Bull at all. They move that from Red Bull to Racing Point.

So yes, pure coincidence for that part, I guess.
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Old 19 Dec 2020, 16:32 (Ref:4023925)   #39
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There won't be any AM branding at Red Bull at all. They move that from Red Bull to Racing Point.

So yes, pure coincidence for that part, I guess.
yeah im re reading E.B.'s post and now checking the news...i misread his post as saying AM are staying with RB. my bad.
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Old 19 Dec 2020, 16:45 (Ref:4023927)   #41
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Sounds like a load of bull......

A load of Red Bull.


Quite an interesting piece from Motorsport.com on Albon's departure.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/r...paign=widget-6
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Can you name a junior program that brought more drivers to F1?

While not a team affiliated effort,I would guess that the Elf program in France did at least as well and the support from Honda and Toyota has opened doors for several people.
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Depends how he's treated by RB, whether they take on board any of his input (he does have masses of experience after all)
That's not the role of a number 2 driver; the number 2 driver's job is to drive the car with the same or similar setup to the number 1 driver (Verstappen). One suspects that is why Gasly was not considered, as previously Gasly demanded too many radical setup changes which departed greatly from Verstappen's setup.

No team has the resources to explore two radically different avenues of development, not even Mercedes or Red Bull!
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Old 19 Dec 2020, 19:49 (Ref:4023950)   #44
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I would have gone Rogro (most talented)


If Grosjean and Magnussen are very talented Formula One aces, surely they would be in demand elsewhere in Formula One!?
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Hartley didn’t do much wrong, certainly seemed very reliable, but he seemed a bit of a stopgap, as there was no other options available. And yet they bought back Kvyat to replace him...
I thought Hartley deserved a second year to get comfortable and prove himself way more than kvyat deserved another chance. Kvyat brings russia money, doesn't he?

I pulled for Hartley because I liked seeing someone go from sportscars to f1, rather than the other way. I know he was in f1 and the f1 development ladder first, but I like the idea of f1 finding talent from sportscars and indycar along with the more insular f1 ladder series. Also, because there's a lot of talent in those series! Release the pipo!
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