Special Saloons - Mallory Park - 2011

[ag shrigley imp]

Originally Posted by ag shrigley imp

Hi clive, some interesting points there.. My car raced in scotland at Inlgleston mostly, the first owners name i have some where and the second owner was called Jim . I have his full name.
However at that time most of the guys racing were budget racers and didnt seem to have much money I was told, they run mainly 850cc, all the top men run mainly 998cc upwards.
Back then shockers were expensive for top gear and only a few of the top boys could afford these as well as top tyres etc etc.
My rawlson spaceframe which I know it is, was clad with the davrian Body from the outset. The weight is actually 465kg so I wouldnt say its heavy.
The thing is these days is that most people out there using the Imp engine are still using the same old ideas.
lucky for me Mr Jones of shrigley engineering has taken the 998 a long way on. Its know a very reliable engine and once when these things had nothing under 6500, thats not the case now. There are lots of other trick bits that he produces and are tested under dyno conditions to take that step forward.

I absolute buzz of these little motors and although people think they are a bit tempremental they are not if you know what to look for and how to treat the motor.

It would be nice to see a few more of the smaller machines out next year.

Rob knox i think is rebuilding his maquire because he knows how much the value of the cars has gone up. I was just happy to find one rebuild it and race it. ( refrazed to say he loves his car and loves driving it hhahaha)

Clive did you know much about the Wallinger chassis? that would be interesting to know.

[Clive Brown]

I can think of three cars that I believe were Wallinger Imps.

Most successful was the spaceframe car that Jeff Ward ran with Epic Accessories sponsorship. It was predominantly white, with dark blue upper surfaces. This is the car pictured elsewhere on this Forum chasing Derek Walker's Fiat 850 coupé around Oulton Park. IIRC, this car was later sold on to Cliff Watts, who had the car painted dark green.

Then there was the black 1000 BDA Stiletto built for Richard (Rupert) Long in 1976. This car was unsuccessful, as were most others using such a power unit. As Ralph Broad said, the 1000 BDA didn't so much rev as vibrate.... It didn't help that Rupert couldn't drive sheep.

Lastly, there was the car he built for himself which was fitted with an upright 1000cc Imp motor. This car was a mustard yellow saloon, which used all sorts of weird ground effects aero gear. It was very fast around Donington Park, but didn't really feature elsewhere. The car was sold to John Goulder, who had it painted in his own preferred shade of green with, I think, blue and yellow striping. Sponsored by Poynton Cars; could that have been Goulder's own company?

Perhaps others can correct me on points of detail, or add to the list!

[Gerry Taylor]

Made me smile Clive.
As you will well remember the press that Richard & I recieved whenever we met on the track. As for the dreaded 1.litre BDA, I couldn't aqgree more. Phil Marks built me a 1.litre BDA and it was really useless. I reverted back to the MAE and continued being competitive. A costly lesson though Clive.

[ag shrigley imp]

Quiet on here , whats happening someone must be doing something new.

Ive just about collected all my new bits for my motor and its off to mr hepworth for build hopefully this weekend.

Hopefully car back together with rebuilt chassis for early next year then a test and all good.

Looking forward to it immensly.

money away for the race series so we should be able to compete in all four.

possibly some n orthern race series as well

[Si Frowen]

The Kitten is still broken after the August bank holiday meet - braided lines being replaced, master cylinders and pedal box being replaced too in order to sort the brakes once and for all. Need to take the carbs/inlet fanimold off too to replace the valley gasket, and while I'm in there replace both headgaskets... Also going to rewire it, try to pick up a couple of 16" wheels for the back (Corvette/Jag fitment if anyone has any!) and then I should be good to go with a little bt of testing!

Sadly won't make it out for all four next year - a combination of my posting being changed so I'm staying in northern Scotland for the time being, and I get a four month 'holiday' to Afghanistan from March-time, so we'll see how much I and the car get out. Might do some Knockhill stuff to keep current, we shall see

[H.Eng]

Originally Posted by ag shrigley imp

Quiet on here , whats happening someone must be doing something new.

Ive just about collected all my new bits for my motor and its off to mr hepworth for build hopefully this weekend.

Hopefully car back together with rebuilt chassis for early next year then a test and all good.

Looking forward to it immensly.

money away for the race series so we should be able to compete in all four.

possibly some n orthern race series as well

my ex Charles Barter Solo Stilletto is still not quite finished, (just wiring loom left) but will be on the Lucas oils stand next week at the classic car show at the NEC

[leecostelloracing]

Originally Posted by H.Eng

my ex Charles Barter Solo Stilletto is still not quite finished, (just wiring loom left) but will be on the Lucas oils stand next week at the classic car show at the NEC

have you any pictures of it bud i love them cars

[ag shrigley imp]

Will you be out for the championship next year. plenty to chase in the small class.

[rodwell]

Is there any dates for next year out yet

I've bought the black spaceframe Imp that was
out at Mallory. I need to build an engine and
was wondering how much time I've got

[ag shrigley imp]

you got plenty on the shelf hahahahahhaha dont say you are coming out. I have a spare cup holder for when you are racing , made a new one for mine. hahahah.

see you at the back just in front of me

[rodwell]

Cheeky

I can't drive to save my life, but a very good friend
of mine can, normaly in a Radical in the Castle Coombe
GT championship. He'll probably think the throttle cable
has snaped !!
I've got lots of Imp engines in my workshop unfortunatly
customers not mine. Probably going to build a 1200

[ag shrigley imp]

you may as well get in and jokey it yourself in that way we can both go slow enough to have a conversation whilst rcing.

Mine you I will have to do all the talking. hahahahah

1200 thats scary hope it dont rattle itself to death hahhahah Be good to see that. ( not rattling itself to death )

If I keep the imp I may change a few things in my engine. Just waiting on the dyno results of latest power unit.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Jonesy always to busy

[andy97]

Originally Posted by rodwell

Is there any dates for next year out yet

I've bought the black spaceframe Imp that was
out at Mallory. I need to build an engine and
was wondering how much time I've got

The dates are still being worked on. Most clubs are in the same position at this time of year & the draft calendar is probably in its 12th edition, not helped by the recent change in Donington planning permission (extra days).

The CSCC calendar is usually published at the AGM which is on 27 November so we should know more after that.

[rallycrosscraig]

Originally Posted by Clive Brown

(i) ..

(iv) Wallinger Imps. I can think of two distinct designs, but there may have been more. I'll post about this in due course!

Couple of picss of wallinger imps at ingliston below:

Fastest Imp I remember from ingliston was a Carter imp it was red with a yellow/beige rear wing it came up from the south one summer early 80's and was quicker than everything except the quickest of the big engined special saloons may have been Nick Carter (?) driving it?

http://www.ingliston-circuit.co.uk/p...onimps_28.html

http://www.ingliston-circuit.co.uk/p...onimps_34.html

http://www.ingliston-circuit.co.uk/p...onimps_30.html

[Clive Brown]

The John Kirk car in the first and third pictures is, IIRC, the ex-Cliff Watts Imp.

The second picture is Wallinger's own car, mustard yellow and sponsored by John Poynton Cars, as I related in a previous posting on this thread.

[H.Eng]

Originally Posted by leecostelloracing

have you any pictures of it bud i love them cars

Hi Lee a few pics,three in period and one now!!....yes i should be out racing in all the rounds next year depening on other comitments

[CG Trading]

Hi

does anyone recognise this Escort please?

Who built the spaceframe chassis is what were're really tyring to find out.

There's a 2nd chassis plate, LDK01RR, as well as the Ford RS one which it's registered under.

My friend has owned it for the last 14 years thinking it's a Zakspeed, as have the previous 2 owners & it's been featured as such in 2 magazines, CCC & Performance Ford. He's lost the CCC issue circa 1987, has anyone got a copy? This article apparently states it was owned by a Greek hotrodder from London who used it on the road.

The bodywork looks like the smaller scaled down version of Nick Whiting's & the front spaceframe bears more resemblance to his car than a Zakspeed or anything else I've found.

Link to Ebay ad, which I'm led to believe is allowed?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/370553111301?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_1815wt_937

We're currently waiting for DVLA to supply the list of previous owners in case any of them either built it or know who did.

Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers
Clive
+44 (0)1273 85 77 95

[CG Trading]

....not RS200 as in the title of my last post.....typo sorry.

Clive

[John Turner]

Now edited to show 'RS2000'.

[big andy]

http://www.racing70s.pwp.blueyonder....WRobertson.jpg

looks very much like Walter Robertson car to me the cage is the same and the wheels looks very similar just a pity the f2 bmw engine as gone

[leecostelloracing]

Originally Posted by big andy

http://www.racing70s.pwp.blueyonder....WRobertson.jpg

looks very much like Walter Robertson car to me the cage is the same and the wheels looks very similar just a pity the f2 bmw engine as gone

i speak too walter often ill ask him

[leecostelloracing]

Originally Posted by H.Eng

Hi Lee a few pics,three in period and one now!!....yes i should be out racing in all the rounds next year depening on other comitments

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thats awesome its been fully rebuilt the fun an history that lil beautys had

[CG Trading]

Originally Posted by leecostelloracing

i speak too walter often ill ask him

Lee, I've pm'd you after I found you asking for his contact details in another thread.

Cheers
Clive

[leecostelloracing]

Originally Posted by CG Trading

Lee, I've pm'd you after I found you asking for his contact details in another thread.

Cheers
Clive

got it heres them snaps he sent me scanned pal my cars at the top right


http://du107w.dub107.mail.live.com/a...t=160&size=Att

iam trying too get the pics bigger

[CG Trading]

Originally Posted by leecostelloracing

got it heres them snaps he sent me scanned pal my cars at the top right


http://du107w.dub107.mail.live.com/att/GetAttachment.aspx?tnail=0&messageId=9e82112d-95a2-11df-a9d5-00237de4a750&Aux=54|0|8CCF7C685877670||0|0|0|0||&maxwidth=220&maxheight=160&size=Att

iam trying too get the pics bigger

I can't access the link due to not having a Hotmail account, sorry could you re-post or email to me please? cgtrading@btinternet.com

Thanks for Walter's email address, he called me & was very helpful & is looking for some old pictures that he might have with the bodywork removed.

His chassis was built by John Robinson Racing Services in Northants, as was Nick Whiting's. I always thought NW built his own chassis.

Walter informed me that his chassis was later run by Tony Sugden...coincidentally I recognised a strong similarity to ours from a picture of Tony's which I found whilst searching but I think Tony's is the Mk1 red/gold Escort so who's is the Mk2 yellow number 10?

The RR in our 2nd chassis plate could stand for 'Robinson Racing'?

Anyone got contact details for Tony Sugden please?

Clive