Driver Daniel Ricciardo - Page 3

Stram_man · 4 Jul 2021, 08:29 (Ref:4059670)

While I support DR, this is not a good position to be in. The excuses have to stop and the results have to start. His contract with the team cannot be strong with these consistent average results against his teammate.

**Aysedasi** · 4 Jul 2021, 08:36 (Ref:4059673)

Trouble is, he now needs a great result. So he'll probably push hard and come a cropper somewhere or bounce off a few people, Leclerc-style, in his haste to make progress.

Alan52 · 4 Jul 2021, 11:14 (Ref:4059692)

If the second half of the year is the same as the first the team will replace him.Always better to have someone on the way up than the way down.If Russell doesn’t get the Mercedes drive -and I think he will- they would put him in McLaren.If Russell goes to Mercedes they will pick the best of the Mercedes junior program with an eye to the future.
In the 45 years I have been following F1 I can’t think of a quicker and bigger fall in form of a race winning driver than Daniel this year.In the pen interview after qualifying yesterday he nearly seemed resigned to the present situation.

**Adam43** · 4 Jul 2021, 11:25 (Ref:4059695)

Is McLaren an official Mercedes feeder team? I missed this, but it is alluded to on here every now and again.

peebee2 · 4 Jul 2021, 12:02 (Ref:4059702)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

Is McLaren an official Mercedes feeder team? I missed this, but it is alluded to on here every now and again.

Don’t think so.

**Adam43** · 4 Jul 2021, 22:04 (Ref:4059854)

Seemed to be a decent race from Dani Ric today, but his team mate was on the podium.

chavez · 5 Jul 2021, 03:48 (Ref:4059871)

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Originally Posted by Alan52

If the second half of the year is the same as the first the team will replace him.Always better to have someone on the way up than the way down.If Russell doesn’t get the Mercedes drive -and I think he will- they would put him in McLaren.If Russell goes to Mercedes they will pick the best of the Mercedes junior program with an eye to the future.
In the 45 years I have been following F1 I can’t think of a quicker and bigger fall in form of a race winning driver than Daniel this year.In the pen interview after qualifying yesterday he nearly seemed resigned to the present situation.

Montoya was decidedly glum when he left Formula One and went off to NASCAR.

Tourer · 5 Jul 2021, 04:06 (Ref:4059876)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

Seemed to be a decent race from Dani Ric today, but his team mate was on the podium.

Agree - a strong glimmer of hope but nowhere near all the way "there" yet.

At one stage on Saturday they had an overlay of the two McLarens through turn 4 (or 3, can't recall). Lando was braking later than Dani and carrying a little more speed - given Daniel's history of being such a late braker, seems that he's still not quite comfortable with the system on the car but he's getting closer to the mark by the looks of how the race went.

S griffin · 5 Jul 2021, 09:19 (Ref:4059908)

At least he managed to salvage some points. What he needs to do is improve his qualifying. Ricciardo doesn't have to be on the front row like his team mate, but he shouldn't be more than ten places behind him on the grid.

steve_r · 5 Jul 2021, 09:58 (Ref:4059915)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

At least he managed to salvage some points. What he needs to do is improve his qualifying. Ricciardo doesn't have to be on the front row like his team mate, but he shouldn't be more than ten places behind him on the grid.

I agree that he needs to improve in qualy, but just improving in qualifying is not enough. He was not signed as a #2 driver, is on a multi year contract and is allegedly being paid more than his teammate. Even if the gap was only small, being regularly behind his teammate would be a disappointment.

I still think that he will come good at some point.

bathurst77 · 5 Jul 2021, 11:22 (Ref:4059923)

dani has hinted that he would love a crack at bathurst
given there are usually some top mercs and mclarens in the 12 hour and his popularity in oz......

maybe they could convince weber to co drive after all he was world endurance champ in closed in cars....danny and mark in a well funded car at mt panorama.... a promoters dream, sponsors would be crawling over each others bleeding bodies to get a sticker on a danny/mark car at bathurst...

given red bull sponsor one of the most successful aussie supercar teams...maybe the fizzy drink australian advertising team might say welcome home to their two aussie gp winners in that category

oh danny boy the silver and blue cans are calling

**Aysedasi** · 5 Jul 2021, 11:49 (Ref:4059927)

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Originally Posted by steve_r

....and is allegedly being paid more than his teammate.

I don't think there's any 'allegedly' about it actually.....

S griffin · 5 Jul 2021, 14:44 (Ref:4059965)

I wonder if we are going to see Earnhardt’s car coming out for a run this year?

**Aysedasi** · 5 Jul 2021, 19:20 (Ref:4059999)

Instead of the #3 McLaren?

S griffin · 5 Jul 2021, 20:18 (Ref:4060017)

He needs to get to #3 on the podium first…

**Aysedasi** · 5 Jul 2021, 20:57 (Ref:4060025)

Indeed so!

peebee2 · 5 Jul 2021, 21:50 (Ref:4060034)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

I don't think there's any 'allegedly' about it actually.....

Are we actually sure that Norris has moved from being a net contributor to being paid?

**Adam43** · 5 Jul 2021, 21:56 (Ref:4060035)

He signed a new contract recently. But who knows.

But it doesn’t surprise me, or outrage me, that the established F1 driver gets paid more. I expect the recent contract narrowed the gap.

**Adam43** · 6 Jul 2021, 03:09 (Ref:4060047)

The stats from Schummy:

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Originally Posted by Schummy

Updating after "Austria 2".

Code:

        BAH IMO POR SPA MON AZB FRA STY AUS .. TOT . GRD .RAC .Prb              
HAM-BOT  11  11  01  11  01  10  11  11  10 = 14- 4  7-2  7-2  97%   Busted by HAM
LEC-SAI  11  11  01  11  10  11  00  10  00 = 11- 7  6-3  5-4  52%   Advantage LEC
RIC-NOR  10  10  00  11  00  00  00  00  00 = 4 -14  3-6  1-8  97%   Busted by NOR
ALO-OCO  10  00  00  00  00  11  11  11  11 = 9 - 9  5-4  4-5   0%   Equality
VET-STR  00  00  11  00  11  11  11  00  10 = 9 - 9  5-4  4-5   0%   Equality

[list][*]RIC is now "officially" busted by NOR. And things don't look rosy in the short future. As we are progressively knowing, Norris is becoming a really formidable driver, but Ricciardo, formerly considered as one of the very best, probably is going to see his career damaged because of this season.

**Aysedasi** · 6 Jul 2021, 10:17 (Ref:4060083)

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Originally Posted by peebee2

Are we actually sure that Norris has moved from being a net contributor to being paid?

I know someone posted salaries here a short while ago - crm?

peebee2 · 6 Jul 2021, 10:25 (Ref:4060084)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

I know someone posted salaries here a short while ago - crm?

Doesn’t mean you don’t bring in more than you are paid though…

**Aysedasi** · 6 Jul 2021, 10:30 (Ref:4060085)

Yes, I guess that's true.

**Adam43** · 6 Jul 2021, 11:52 (Ref:4060095)

And the more success he has the more they are likely to contribute! Was Alonso always a net contributor?

peebee2 · 6 Jul 2021, 12:02 (Ref:4060097)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

And the more success he has the more they are likely to contribute! Was Alonso always a net contributor?

I meant driver’s Dad, as opposed to true commercial sponsorship.

**Adam43** · 6 Jul 2021, 16:05 (Ref:4060179)

Ah.
Win win for McLaren.

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