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26 Mar 2006, 08:19 (Ref:1561116)
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Gould Hillclimbers
The following is a list of the Gould chassis and projects. David Gould and his son Sean are currently the most successful construcors/developers of hillclimb cars.
Type/ Ch No/ Engine/ Details 84G - 1.6 Ford BDA David Gould 84G - 2.5 Hart Chris Cramer, David Gould & Sean Gould GR37 01 2.0 Hart Richard Brown GR37 01 3.5 Cosworth DFR David Grace/Richard Brown/Tom Brown GR37 01 4.0 Cosworth DFL Simon Durling GR37 01 3.3 Cosworth/NM XB Simon Durling GR37 01 3.5 Judd CV Alastair Crawford GR37 02 4.0 Judd EV Roger Moran GR37 02 4.0 Judd/J&F EV Mike Dean GR37 02 4.0 Judd/J&F EV Basil Pitt – For Sale GR37 03 3.5 DFR Tim Painter/Andy Fraser GR37 04 3.5 DFR Rob Turnbull GR37 04 3.5 DFR Malcolm Wishart – For Sale GR37S 05 3.5 Cosworth/L&P DFR Tony Marsh – mods incl'd to suit sprinting GR37S 05 3.5 Cosworth/L&P DFR Paul Ranson/Martin Groves GR37S 05 3.5 Cosworth/L&P DFR Peter Smith/Kelvin Jouhar GR37 06 4.0 Judd/Connaught CV Tim Mason/Tim Coventry/Martin Groves GR37 06 4.0 Judd/Connaught CV Colin Le Maitre GR37 06 4.0 Judd/Connaught CV Roy Dawson – For Sale GR37 07 4.0 Judd EV Karl Davison - the Ex-Roy Lane Ralt that Gould's rebuilt GR49 01 2.0 Vauxhall Leon Bachelier/Ben Butterfield - Dallara F394 Conversion GR49 01 2.0 Vauxhall Richard & Gill Marshall GR49 02 2.0 Vauxhall Alan Warburton/Paul Haimes - Dallara F397 conversion GR49 02 2.0 Vauxhall Andy & Julie Platt GR51 01 2.5 Opel V6 Graeme Wight & Graeme Wight Jnr GR51B 01 2.5 Opel V6 Graeme Wight & Graeme Wight Jnr Designated B after SECOND rebuild when monoshock system fitted to front suspension GR51B 01 4.0 Judd EV Deryk Young/Sue Young GR55 01 3.3 Cosworth/NM XB Roger & Adam Fleetwood - Engine upped to 3.5 2004 GR55 01 3.5 Cosworth/NM XB Roy & Anthony Lane (never used) GR55 01 3.5 Cosworth/NM XB Roy Dawson GR55 02 4.0 Judd EV Roy Lane GR55 02 4.0 Judd EV Chris Merrick/Karl Davison GR55 03 2.5 Cosworth/Richardson V6 Rob Turnbull GR55 04 2.5 Cosworth/Richardson V6 Andy & Mark Coley GR55 05 3.3 Cosworth/NM XB Tony Marsh GR55 06 3.5 Cosworth HB Paul Edwards (Driven by Rob Turnbull) GR55B 07 3.5 Cosworth/NM XB Mike Dean GR55B 08 3.5 Cosworth/NM XB Martin Groves/Paul Ranson GR55B 09 2.65 Cosworth/NM XB Simon Durling GR56 01 3.5 Judd CV Christian Mineef - SPA SC0191 Conversion aka SPAG01 GR56 01 3.5 Judd CV Tony & Matthew Harrison GR61X 01 3.5 Cosworth/NM XB Roger & Scott Moran - Based on '99 F3 Ralt Last edited by Steve Wilkinson; 26 Mar 2006 at 08:25. Reason: Amendments to format - SRW |
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26 Mar 2006, 08:30 (Ref:1561126)
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Gould snaps!
 Above: Chris Cramer at Barbon in Gould 84G  Above: Martin Groves en route at Craigantlet to the 2006 British Hillclimb title in the GR55B |
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26 Mar 2006, 12:17 (Ref:1561300)
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Stap me! Very impressive Steve!
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26 Mar 2006, 13:07 (Ref:1561337)
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26 Mar 2006, 16:07 (Ref:1561400)
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Steve how long have you been researching all this? and where did you manage to get all the info from? Its really interesting to see who had what and when. Your next Task Steve is to jot down EVERY time each car has recorded at every hillclimb event......... over the last 30 years! I expect the thread up by MONDAY MORNING!
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27 Mar 2006, 10:08 (Ref:1562140)
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As for my next task! Well my comments would be something along the lines of sex and travel! PS Gould chassis haven't been used in hillclimbing for 30 years yet! 
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29 Mar 2006, 14:26 (Ref:1564210)
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Steve, While going through some old Autosports recently I came across a short item on the Gould-Terrapin Mk1 of 1979-80, presumably one of David Gould's earliest projects, which doesn't appear on your list?
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29 Mar 2006, 17:25 (Ref:1564353)
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 Quite a few 'adjustments' from the sound of it though.
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8 May 2006, 06:56 (Ref:1603038)
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Another Gould
Do not forget Mike Endean's Puma Gould. [GR 44-01-B] 4wd BDT 2180t/c
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4 Nov 2006, 11:54 (Ref:1757693)
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There was a Terrapin that ended up with an 1100cc BD? ontop of the Mini gearbox. This was followed by the Gould Terrapin which had a longitudinal 1600cc BDA and Hewland box. This is described in some detail by Allan Staniforth in 'Race and Rallycar Source Book'.
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15 Mar 2007, 14:08 (Ref:1867287)
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What about the car Richard Fry had built originally with the Hart and later a Judd CV engine? I think it was the second one built. I'm sure I've got something in my notes suggesting it was heavily damaged at Shelsley a few years ago when it was being shared by the chap who used to run a Porsche GT2. Unfortunatly I'm not on the web at home so I'm typing this from memory at work and I can't remember his name. Roland Jones possibly?
Didn't RH430 also end up with a Gould rear end? Was this from the Brown car's original 2.0 set up? Coincidentally I'm so glad to have found this forum. It seems I'm not the only " rivet counter " in the hillclimb paddock! |
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15 Mar 2007, 15:57 (Ref:1867350)
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16 Mar 2007, 16:57 (Ref:1868394)
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You could well be right, but I definatly remember Sean Gould driving it, although the front wing was a full F3 and not a speed event version, at least untill they fitted the V8. It does beg the question of what's the difference between a Gould modified RT37 with Gould wings and a Judd compared to a full GR37 though! ( laughs ). Any answers to that one Steve?
I'll dig out a few old programs over the weekend and see what it was called when it had the CV in it. Sean enthused about the turn in and traction, so it may well have been used mainly for development work. |
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19 Mar 2007, 16:25 (Ref:1871504)
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I've had a look through back issues of Speedscene and the Richard Fry car is most definatly refered to as a Gould GR37 both in 1999 and in 2000 when it was co driven by Richard Jones. It was heavily damaged at Shelsley on June 10th 2000, and my notes state that it was then sold on to Roger Moran. The history of the car is well known since then. I seem to remember getting this information during a conversation with Roger when he first acquired the car, but it could be worth double checking. Hope this helps clarify it's history.
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25 Sep 2007, 20:40 (Ref:2022953)
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I'm just trying to put together a history of each Gould hill climb car and it seems that Chassis 2 (the Fry/Moran/etc.) car was originally a 2.5 Hart-engined car for Tom Brown. By mid-season 1997 it was powered by a 3.5 Judd CV and with Richard Fry. Contemporary reports confirm the first two GR37s were Hart-engined originally, but Fry's car may have been based on an RT36 tub (can anyone confirm?).
Following its Shelsley crash in 2000, the car apparently went back to Gould and when I saw it again in August of that year it was mainly in bare carbon fibre finish, with only the rear wing showing signs of its previous colours. It was still with Richard Fry at that point. I think this clears things up a bit, but I do wonder if Gould re-chassised the car? |
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5 Nov 2007, 12:07 (Ref:2060067)
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Gould History Table Update for you.
GR37S 05 3.5 Cosworth/L&P DFR Roy Napier / Ross Napier Aye, Roy |
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9 Nov 2007, 17:33 (Ref:2063935)
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Thanks for the reply Roy - have seen your car many times, first with Tony Marsh/Sean Gould driving and later with Groves/Ranson and Jouhar/Smith.
Whilst in Martin Groves' ownership it had the high airbox fitted ('GR37B-style), but still with the air filters poking out of the engine cover: I often wondered why they didn't go for a full high airbox intake? Ideas? |
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15 Nov 2007, 11:14 (Ref:2067918)
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Australian Gould
AutoAction April 11-17 2007 notes Andrew Howell winning the over 2000cc Formula Libre class in Round 2 of the Victoria hillclimb championship at Gippsland Park in a Gould GR55B. Which chassis is this?
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16 Nov 2007, 19:12 (Ref:2069092)
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It'd be GR55B-11-X.
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My first guess is that an attempt was made to balance the air flow between the trumpets i.e. the rears would in all likelyhood, receive more air due to external air flow where the front trumpets under the original bodywork would be reliant on being fed from the engine bay. However, the present added high air box has limited advantage. The design of an airbox is critical if any gains are to be made. For an enclosed airbox to give any advantage it requires to be sealed and flow testing conducted to ensure adequate and equal air flow/feed to all trumpets. |
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I'm trying to locate any Gould cars currently available to purchase, condition unimportant, all considered.
Contact me with the details and feel free to share my post in any other similar forums. paulmullan85@gmail.com 074883 90009 Located in N Ireland |
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