Peugeot 908 discussion - Page 14

gwyllion · 3 Feb 2011, 20:37 (Ref:2825334)

You can see the exhaust opening in the rear bodywork on http://picasaweb.google.com/claude83...73488477672658

However, a blow diffuser might be a good idea. I would think that is it is fairly easy to implement because a diesel engine has no throttle valve.

Victor_RO · 3 Feb 2011, 20:56 (Ref:2825348)

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Originally Posted by gwyllion

You can see the exhaust opening in the rear bodywork on http://picasaweb.google.com/claude83...73488477672658

Thanks for that.

So suspicion not confirmed.

Tom87 · 3 Feb 2011, 21:05 (Ref:2825356)

Well that wasn't exactly as exciting as I'd imagined, however I think it shows a deal of maturity on Peugeot's part not to get carried away with the new car - hopefully this is a sign we can expect a little better reliability from the...er...908.

As already mentioned, the fact that they will arrive at Sebring with 14 months of engine development and 8 months of car testing is very ominous for everyone except Audi (who don't exactly have a reputation for arriving under prepared). I doubt we'll see a LM or ILMC win for anything without a diesel engine once again - and nothing to do with equivalency this time!

Gingers4Justice · 3 Feb 2011, 21:06 (Ref:2825358)

I don't really care what it's called, so long as it's racing behind noisy petrol-powered cars and not winning races

Victor_RO · 3 Feb 2011, 21:27 (Ref:2825367)

Marc Gene talks about the second-generation 908.

Some brief points translated:

He was the first to drive the car in a test session, July last year at Barcelona.
The bulk of the testing in 2010 was done at Monza, Paul Ricard and particularly Motorland Aragon (due to a long straight line at that track).
Every driver always wants more power from the car... he calls the old V12 "the most fabulous engine I've ever had in one of my racing cars", but says that the new V8 should be on a par, although with less power and that it actually makes more noise than the V12. "Drivers adjust quickly to the new car and forget the comparisons eventually".
Chassis is much improved, the car is much more nimble and efficient through sequences of corners.
Some talk on the shark fin and its effects, tangential reference to the crash Marc had on test day at LM in '08.

gwyllion · 3 Feb 2011, 21:36 (Ref:2825372)

Interview with Marc Gene about the new car: http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...ance-6185.html

He was the first driver to drive the new 908, in Barcelona, and drove on 2 other occasions. It seems that Peugeot already did a lot of testing: they went to Barcelona, Aragon Motorland, Monza and Paul Richard.

The drivers miss the power of the V12, but handling is better. Good news for the spectators: the V8 makes more noise than the V12.

A picture of interior: http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...le908_Prez.jpg

gwyllion · 3 Feb 2011, 21:41 (Ref:2825374)

Some comments from Pagenaud: http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...ance-6188.html

Like Gene, he finds the new 908 much more nimble. The bigger front tyres allow for later breaking.

Victor_RO · 3 Feb 2011, 21:43 (Ref:2825378)

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Originally Posted by gwyllion

Some comments from Pagenaud: http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...ance-6188.html

Like Gene, he finds the new 908 much more nimble. The bigger front tyres allow for later breaking.

"The car goes exactly where you want it to go..."

... always a set of terrifying words for any opposition.

gwyllion · 3 Feb 2011, 22:00 (Ref:2825386)

Some more pictures on http://www.24h-en-piste.com/Galeries...ticle_030.html and http://86400.fr/articles/121-ma-fill...appeleras-908-

@Victor_RO: http://86400.fr/images/stories/2011_...New_908_09.jpg clearly shows the exhausts.
Note that there is only a NACA duct on the left side

gwyllion · 3 Feb 2011, 22:11 (Ref:2825392)

Technical specification of chassis on http://www.peugeot-sport.com/en/endu...fications.html and of engine on http://www.peugeot-sport.com/en/endu...ngine-90x.html.

JAG · 3 Feb 2011, 22:19 (Ref:2825396)

An official 550bhp so add another 10% and they're already over 600bhp.

MihokS5 · 3 Feb 2011, 22:32 (Ref:2825402)

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Originally Posted by Victor_RO

"The car goes exactly where you want it to go..."

... always a set of terrifying words for any opposition.

I'm pretty sure most drivers say that about the race cars they are testing when interviewed. I can't count how many times that has been said before...

Gingers4Justice · 3 Feb 2011, 22:34 (Ref:2825404)

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Originally Posted by MihokS5

I'm pretty sure most drivers say that about the race cars they are testing when interviewed. I can't count how many times that has been said before...

Yeah, corners remain a pretty vital part of racing to this day

Lola T70 · 3 Feb 2011, 22:36 (Ref:2825405)

Anyone notice the dreadful english translation on the Peugeot Sport site? Really funny, you should look as well at the driver's favourite cars...all Pugs of course but

Sarrazan favourite car is a ...wait for it......407 Sport Wagon!!! Pleeease.

isynge · 3 Feb 2011, 23:22 (Ref:2825424)

Wasn't Groundhog Day on Wednesday 2nd?

dxk1 · 3 Feb 2011, 23:23 (Ref:2825425)

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Originally Posted by isynge

Wasn't Groundhog Day on Wednesday 2nd?

It certainly was.

DK

Joe Taylor · 4 Feb 2011, 00:14 (Ref:2825444)

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Originally Posted by gwyllion

and of engine on http://www.peugeot-sport.com/en/endu...ngine-90x.html.

I notice they've neglected to mention the material used for the conrods...

**skycafe** · 4 Feb 2011, 02:28 (Ref:2825463)

unbreakatanium conrods :-)

MulsanneMike · 4 Feb 2011, 02:57 (Ref:2825466)

Anyone else notice the dimensions they quote? Nothing at all like I scaled back in December...Think I was had ;0) I've offered up the side view of the rendering they released today and it is nothing at all like the 2800 mm wheelbase I scaled in December...much closer to the 2950 mm they admit.

TF110 · 4 Feb 2011, 04:35 (Ref:2825476)

I'm a bit disappointed with the roof not being silver like the older car, and the huge roof scoop. Maybe they needed a bigger one than audi for some reason. At least the car still looks the same elsewhere, perhaps better. But in my view I liked the Audi's 'fin' better.

TF110 · 4 Feb 2011, 06:32 (Ref:2825488)

Whoops, it appears it does have a silver roof, hard to see in the release show photos!

**Bentley03** · 4 Feb 2011, 10:06 (Ref:2825559)

I see Daily Sportscar have decided to call it the 908X. Have I missed something?

Victor_RO · 4 Feb 2011, 10:10 (Ref:2825563)

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Originally Posted by Bentley03

I see Daily Sportscar have decided to call it the 908X. Have I missed something?

I'd rather think that people are just trying to make the distinction clearer between the old 908 and the new 908.

At least from what I heard in the press conference, the name is just 908, not 908 HDi FAP like the old one... but still, some more difference would be useful.

gwyllion · 4 Feb 2011, 10:44 (Ref:2825573)

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Originally Posted by MulsanneMike

Anyone else notice the dimensions they quote? Nothing at all like I scaled back in December...Think I was had ;0) I've offered up the side view of the rendering they released today and it is nothing at all like the 2800 mm wheelbase I scaled in December...much closer to the 2950 mm they admit.

So the dimensions are much closer to those of the R18 that you measured. The R18 has a similar wheelbase and front overhang, only the rear overhang is less.

MulsanneMike · 4 Feb 2011, 11:02 (Ref:2825579)

I prefer to call it the 908 bis. Peugeot did similar with the 905.

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