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Old 4 Nov 2016, 17:52 (Ref:3685350)   #181
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If F1 loses Montreal, I hope IndyCar picks it up. The series needs another race in Canada.
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If F1 loses Montreal, I hope IndyCar picks it up. The series needs another race in Canada.
I agree. In fact, it would be awesome if Montreal could host both series but F1's fee might be too expensive for that.
Yet, if Montreal went with IndyCar for a few years, it might be easier for them to fund the track upgrades that F1 requires because such a move would give them more time, after which they could make an F1 comeback with a renewed circuit.
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According to the promoter, there will now definitely be a GP next year, which is a relief
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Any sources to confirm that?
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Any sources to confirm that?
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/126984
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If F1 loses Montreal, I hope IndyCar picks it up. The series needs another race in Canada.
Indycar and WEC double header. That'd be fun.
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According to the promoter, there will now definitely be a GP next year, which is a relief
That's just optimistic talk by Dumontier, the promoter. There is still a Mexican Standoff among Mayor Coderre, Promoter Dumontier and Bwana Bernie. The future of the race is still very much in doubt.


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Old 15 Nov 2016, 21:45 (Ref:3688357)   #188
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According to Louis Butcher, columnist for Le Journal de Montreal, the mayor of Montreal and Bernie are close to agreeing on a 1-year deal for Montreal. Negotiations for a long-term deal based on a new timetable for doing the renovations would continue in 2017.

It's good to know that there should be a race next year, but the long term future of the Montreal race remains in doubt. Bernie wants a guarantee that the renovations will get done and he doesn't really care who pays for them or how; the mayor wants to get rid of the promoter before he agrees for the city to pay for the renovations; and the promoter wants to keep his job and ensure the long term future of the race.

Mayor Coderre wants to get rid of the promoter, Dumontier, because Coderre feels that Dumontier deceived him about the escalating cost of the proposed renovations.

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Among the three races threatened next year in F1, Montreal appears the least vulnerable, according to Bernie Ecclestone.

At least that is what the boss of the F1 indicated to a colleague of the site Motorsport.com in the paddocks of Interlagos, site of the Brazilian Grand Prix last weekend.

"I think the matter seems to be settling in Canada, not without pain, though," Ecclestone said...


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The Canadian GP is now definite for 2017, I wonder what the situation is in the longer term?

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The Canadian GP is now definite for 2017, I wonder what the situation is in the longer term?
I was glad to hear this news about 2017. However the future of the race after 2017 is still in doubt. As I described in several previous posts, there is a long term contract in place. It requires the city to make some significant improvements to the track infrastructure, but the city has not fulfilled its obligation.

The city agreed to do the track renovations without knowing how it would pay for them (the current cost estimate is about CDN $45-50M while the original estimate was about CDN $32M).

The mayor is mad at the promoter (Francois Dumontier) because he thinks the promoter misled him about the cost. He wants to get rid of Dumontier and replace him with a large Montreal event promotion company that he favors.

So one more year is definite but after that no one really knows. In sum, a typical F1 story in the Age of Bernie.
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What renovations are needed? More air conditioned VIP, leather seated, serving champange and canape areas?
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The Quebec (francophone) sports TV channel RDS reported a week ago that Montreal Mayor Coderre says that there is now a verbal agreement to resolve the impasse surrounding track renovations and the extension of the race contract.

According to Coderre a deal will be signed soon for the city to pay $48M CDN to rebuild the paddocks and make other improvements by 2019. In return F1 will extend the current contract to 2019.

I'm happy to see some positive news about the future of the race. I want to believe what Coderre says but I will wait for confirmation from F1 officials and other news sources until I celebrate. But for now, the Montreal F1 Babes are smiling and I am planning my 13th trip (since 2000) to the race in June.


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Though there has still been no official word from the city and the promoter, an article in the French-language La Presse today had some good news from race promoter François Dumontier. He confirmed that there is a contract in place to make the renovations and keep the race until 2029. Here is a Google translation of the article with tweaking by me for clarity.

The Grand Prix of Canada will be presented in Montreal until 2029, confirmed the promoter of the event, François Dumontier, on Tuesday.
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Passing through the paddocks of the circuit of Catalunya while witnessing the first official laps of the Quebec driver Lance Stroll in Formula 1, Dumontier revealed that he had prepared some modifications to the 10-year agreement previously signed in 2014 with Formula One Management (FOM). "We have made amendments to our agreements over the past few months, but I can assure you that the matter is settled, that our contracts are signed with FOM and now we can look to the future. We had a contract until 2024, and it was amended so that we could go until 2029. All the contractual hassles are now behind us. "

Last June, Former F1 manager Bernie Ecclestone put in doubt the continuation of the Canadian Grand Prix since the modernization of the garages, the control tower and the circuit's medical facility had not been started [as previously agreed].

The Mayor of Montreal, Denis Coderre, announced on Tuesday morning, during an interview on Radio-Canada, that the extension of the pact until 2029 was a sine qua non [essential] condition for the construction of the project.

"It was important for me, because if we wanted to do the paddocks for 2019, then we had to make sure we had the race for the medium or long term," he said.

The new F1 paddocks will ultimately cost $18 million CDN more than expected, nearly $48 million CDN, confirmed the City of Montreal in a document released in December. These excess costs will be absorbed by the Government of Quebec, according to what the City of Montreal said at the time.

Then, in January, Mayor Coderre indicated that the City of Montreal and F1 would extend the agreement that binds them beyond 2024, taking care to specify that the only thing left to do is to put the deal on paper and sign it.

The new facilities, which originally had been scheduled to be delivered in 2017, are now expected to be completed in 2019.

Dumontier also took the opportunity to discuss his meeting with Liberty Media, which purchased F1 for US $ 4.4 billion in January.

"The meeting was positive, their vision of the future is interesting, explained Dumontier. It's a bit of music to our ears. But we have to give them time, because these people are in a very pronounced learning curve. (...) That being said, they seem to have an openness to discuss and work with promoters.

"Previously, there was little dialogue between promoters," he added. We are 20 promoters, and we talked little, but I feel it will change with the arrival of Liberty Media. There will be better collaboration between us, let's say. "

Dumontier also admitted to having talked a few times with Ecclestone, "but only on a friendly basis".

"The Stroll effect"

On the other hand, the founder of Octane Management said he was still looking for a major sponsor for the Canadian Grand Prix. However, he implied that the arrival of Stroll in F1 could enable him to make a breakthrough on this front.

"The appeal will become stronger," he explained. It is also our 50th anniversary, and the 20th anniversary of the winning of the world championship byJacques Villeneuve. The future is now assured. But this is a constantly evolving issue. We want to find the right one (sponsor), but I am not giving myself any deadline in this matter. "

According to Dumontier, he feels there is a "Stroll effect" at the ticket office of the Canadian Grand Prix.

"We feel it, and the season has not even begun," he said, with a smile on his face. People are talking about him (Stroll), about F1, so we already foresee a marked increase in the sale of tickets. We were even forced to add a section to the stands, just last week, because of the high demand. "

Dumontier added that he looks forward to welcoming BobHWS back to the race this year (for the 13th time) and seeing the photos of this year's famous Montreal F1 Babes (I made up the last sentence ).

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The francophone tabloid of Montreal, Le Journal de Montreal published an article today about the upcoming GP du Canada, the new contract and the planned renovations to the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve.

The main point of the article is that Montreal Mayor Coderre and Promoter Francois Dumontier have reconciled their differences and made peace. So at least for now, the future of the Montreal race is assured until 2019.

However, as the article points out, the governmental bodies (mainly the city and the province of Quebec) that will fund the almost-$50M CDN renovation project still need to sign a formal agreement to do so. Hopefully everything gets signed soon.

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The Grand Prize for Reconciliation
Coderre and Dumontier have made peace; F1 is in Montreal to stay
LOUIS BUTCHER
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Wednesday, May 24, 2017


The embrace was more than symbolic. It seemed cordial between [Promoter] François Dumontier and [Mayor] Denis Coderre.

The scene, captured Tuesday in a press conference, thus puts an end to months of division anduncertainty, not only concerning the future of the Grand Prix of Canada, but also about the relationship between its promoter and the Mayor of Montreal. From the outset, Coderre even conveyed his congratulations to the man he even avoided identifying by name in recent months.

"Bravo François and continued success with the Grand Prix," he exclaimed. It is a unifying event and everyone is now working hand in hand. I salute Francois and his team for their hard work. This reconciliation sends a clear message. "

Renovation cost on the rise

The famous disagreement with the promoter that Coderre complained about last year was related to the construction cost (to be paid by the city of Montreal) which has been revised upward a few times since the first estimate.

The mayor did not like the fact that the initial estimate could no longer be respected. With good reason.

But Mr. Dumontier made clear to him that he was not responsible for this prodigious leap from CDN $ 32 to $ 48 million required to improve the infrastructure at Circuit Gilles-Villeneuve.

"This dispute concerned the construction project, said the mayor, it cost more than expected. But hey, it's settled.

"My conception of life is like a car. That's why the windscreen is bigger than the rear-view mirrors. We must look forward. We have been watching our blind spot and everything is going well ... "

These renovations were essential to confirm the extension of the contract that will ensure the survival of the great F1 circus until 2029.

"The plan for the renovations and the demands of the FIA and the authorities of F1 (FOM) have changed," said Mr. Dumontier. Nothing could be done. "
However, Mr. Coderre did not want to elaborate on the much-anticipated press briefing that will formalize the extension of this agreement, in the presence, presumably, of all the parties involved in the agreement and the representatives of the governmental levels concerned.

"It will take place in due course," said the mayor. We are refining the announcement [and probably the final administrative details ...]. "
It could take place during the first day of activities on the track, on Friday 9 June, to take advantage of the presence of the hundreds of journalists assigned to the coverage of F1. As was done in 2014 to announce the renewal of the initial ten-year contract before it is extended by another five years.

Fifty years, it's a celebration!

This press conference, which took place at the Gilles-Villeneuve circuit, kicked off the festivities surrounding the 50th anniversary of the arrival of F1 in the country.

On August 17, 1967, the Mosport circuit was the scene of the first Canadian Grand Prix.

An array of free events, organized during the week of the GP, will allow Montreal, like never before, to vibrate to the rhythm of F1.

The Grand Prix of Canada team is putting its finishing touches on the “50th Park,” which will be located at Dorchester Square, north of René-Lévesque Boulevard, between Peel and Metcalfe Streets.

"This is the first time that our organization has offered free and accessible activities in downtown Montreal," said Mr. Dumontier.

The official opening will take place on Wednesday, June 7 at 5:30 pm, in the presence of the Quebec driver Lance Stroll and the Frenchman Romain Grosjean.

The mayor of Montreal, in plain language, lamented the lack of involvement of the promoter outside the track.

"I'm glad we're talking about promotional activities," added Mr. Coderre, other than the four days at Circuit Gilles-Villeneuve. The idea is to get the full potential of the event. There are things that are moving. You have to create a buzz. "

Mayor Coderre also welcomes the arrival of the new owners of the F1 which will give a second wind to this event.

"Whether we like him or not, Bernie Ecclestone launched the sport. He created an empire. But this wind of renewal will be good for F1. The people of Liberty Media understand the importance of pleasing the crowd. It's not just about money and the promotion of sport.

"We want to make a happening, that’s what would really please me."
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