Spa 6 hrs

[terence]

Originally Posted by zefarelly

I'm no MGB expert but That would be an extremely quick lap time for a compliant MGB? , never considered them to be any quicker than my Cortina, and a 3:14 is as good as its got so far . . . maybe a gnats more to come with brand new boots. thats from 143 bhp/730kg . .If an MGB is 830kg and makes 170 BHP?? Its a long stroke engine so torquey, but no screamer ?

Yes, it was a good time, very pleased with it. BS-S was happy as well, got three trophies from him that day.Just for reference 19.09.1994.

[Gerard C]

Originally Posted by andy97

/ It may be worth trawling through the CSCC race results at the Spa summer classic over a few years as we may have had an MX5 or two race with us in the “Inter-series” race. Be careful though, I know one of them has ITBs and a programmable ecu for about 170bhp so best not consider their laps times as possible!

Spot on Andy, that's exactly what I'm lookin for.Thanks for the info and warning too!



Joe I'm with you, impossible for a compliant B to be as fast as your Cortina GT. I cant imagine a B pumping out 170 bhp on one carb tho. And a Miata is way much heavier than an MG, we're around 900 kilos dry. Not mentioning the disgrateful rops we use… May be 3'16" would be good with some drafting!

[GORDON STREETER]

Before we all get excited regarding Spa lap times don't forget that we used the "Bus Stop" up until 2002 that gave faster lap times
The ‘Bus Stop’ chicane was used between 1983 and 2002. A different version of the chicane was used for two races in 2004 and 2005 before the current, tighter corner was added.

[terence]

Originally Posted by Gerard C

Spot on Andy, that's exactly what I'm lookin for.Thanks for the info and warning too!



Joe I'm with you, impossible for a compliant B to be as fast as your Cortina GT. I cant imagine a B pumping out 170 bhp on one carb tho. And a Miata is way much heavier than an MG, we're around 900 kilos dry. Not mentioning the disgrateful rops we use… May be 3'16" would be good with some drafting!

Impossible?? It's there in black and white as for the GT, I'll dig out a picture I have in the old Bus Stop, Lotus Cortina faster than a GT? yes I would think so, MGB LC then the Motul Mazda. Sounds like I am being accused of cheating Joe?

[Gerard C]

Originally Posted by GORDON STREETER

Before we all get excited regarding Spa lap times don't forget that we used the "Bus Stop" up until 2002 that gave faster lap times

So right! I do remember exciting the bus stop in the wet with a 911, the left was damn tricky and slippy too.



If Eau Rouge is changed, could the lap times be aletered terence? Using road tires on the Capri, I've never been able to keep the pedal to the metal in this part. May be a good driver could.

[zefarelly]

Originally Posted by terence

Yes, it was a good time, very pleased with it. BS-S was happy as well, got three trophies from him that day.Just for reference 19.09.1994.

The air was thinner then

First time I went spannering the bus stop was still there, no doubt resurfacing has made a difference too. As Gordon says, they spent a few years arsing about with the chicane before they got it totally wrong.

FWLIW My foirst time driving there I was around 3:30 . . . . Sustainable lap time I reckon, for more than a 60 minute race is probably 3:20 by clipping rev limit. my self imposed limit is 7300, nothingh haapening any higher and it'll only pull just over 7k in top.

[GORDON STREETER]

I used to enter anything going when I was at Spa, I remember Norman Ricketts and I was asked to do one of the French races as they wanted to bolster the field up, I don't think that they expected me to finish where I did though

[terence]

Hmm, interesting, my last two posts have disappeared?

[Peter Mallett]

Originally Posted by GORDON STREETER

I used to enter anything going when I was at Spa, I remember Norman Ricketts and I was asked to do one of the French races as they wanted to bolster the field up, I don't think that they expected me to finish where I did though
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Wasn't that the weekend Norman backed it into the armco at Radillon?

[GORDON STREETER]

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

Wasn't that the weekend Norman backed it into the armco at Radillon?

No I don't think it was, I think it was much later although I'll consult my wife as she keeps a day to day diary !
I remember working on his car all weekend as it was in qually or practice ? and I finished it an hour before his race the following day. After it happened he was going to load up and go home as the back panel was about 18 inches nearer the rear screen, but I said "let me have a go at it" as I had all my porta power kit with me
RIP Norm

[terence]

Originally Posted by terence

Hmm, interesting, my last two posts have disappeared?

And this one being ignored?

[Peter Mallett]

Originally Posted by GORDON STREETER

No I don't think it was, I think it was much later although I'll consult my wife as she keeps a day to day diary !
I remember working on his car all weekend as it was in qually or practice ? and I finished it an hour before his race the following day. After it happened he was going to load up and go home as the back panel was about 18 inches nearer the rear screen, but I said "let me have a go at it" as I had all my porta power kit with me
RIP Norm

I do remember him being pretty upset. IIRC it was an unforced error. But yes, he managed to make the car much shorter. RIP Norman.

[zefarelly]

2006, we were in the outside paddock for the 6 hour, much better out there, for watching in the evening by the motorhome. Arthur was 1 so we couldn't stray too far.

I can see your posts Tel, and no I wasn't accusing you of cheating.

Gordon told me the short cut from Pouhon to Radillon was fair game!

[Gerard C]

Originally Posted by zefarelly

Gordon told me the short cut from Pouhon to Radillon was fair game!

A good trick for Midget, you have to go through the karting track!

[terence]

Originally Posted by Gerard C

A good trick for Midget, you have to go through the karting track!

You will spend a lot of time trying, and failing to get out of the Karting area.

[terence]

Originally Posted by zefarelly

2006, we were in the outside paddock for the 6 hour, much better out there, for watching in the evening by the motorhome. Arthur was 1 so we couldn't stray too far.

I can see your posts Tel, and no I wasn't accusing you of cheating.

Gordon told me the short cut from Pouhon to Radillon was fair game!

Cutting through won't give a full, timed lap?

[Gerard C]

No it wont give a full time lap! Will the new Raidillon arrangement will go through the restaurant?

[terence]

Looks like those changes have been forgotten about.

[terence]

Originally Posted by terence

Looks like those changes have been forgotten about.

But if you do face book search Friends of Spa Francorchamps. Lots of picture updates on track alterations.

[delta]

Getting close now so thought we should bump this thread up the chart.Busy weekend for me with Dr Bob in Gentleman drivers and of coarse Gilbert with MG David in 6 hour.After racing in the 3 hour earlier in the year i fear the 6 hour will have many many safety car periods. That pesky gravel sure will cause some problems.Wonder if we will get a sub 3 Minuit lap time in a MGB.. Just a wind up.

[Peter Mallett]

Should be good for 2:42. I shall watch progress from afar since I have a couple of video conferences on the Thursday and Friday. Good luck to you, MGD and Dr Bob.

[justracing]

Go well Iain, I will get there one year if only to observe meanwhile I hope the shingles has improved with you, nasty thing I remember my dad suffering.

[John Elwin]

Originally Posted by justracing

Go well Iain, I will get there one year if only to observe meanwhile I hope the shingles has improved with you, nasty thing I remember my dad suffering.

I really, really want to be there but at the moment it is not looking terribly likely.

I've not actually been to a race at all this year & I had so many plans. However, Croix has its one & only race meeting of the year on the 10/11 Sept., so just maybe...

[midgetman]

Yes best of luck to Delta and MGD. It's one heck of a challenge to do six hours in an elderly car. Looking forward to the tales of derring-do when you get back.

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[GORDON STREETER]

Originally Posted by delta

Getting close now so thought we should bump this thread up the chart.Busy weekend for me with Dr Bob in Gentleman drivers and of coarse Gilbert with MG David in 6 hour.After racing in the 3 hour earlier in the year i fear the 6 hour will have many many safety car periods. That pesky gravel sure will cause some problems.Wonder if we will get a sub 3 Minuit lap time in a MGB.. Just a wind up.

This is probably the weekend I miss out of all the tracks I have raced at over the years. As for sub 3mins in a B, I have done it in the Anglia so why not ?