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28 Jun 2000, 15:26 (Ref:19972) | #1 | ||
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According to this press release, 2 door coupes and hatchbacks will be allowed to race in the '01 BTCC. Sighh... I am saddened to hear these cars will race side by side sedans!! Let h/b and coupes have their own series!!
http://www.autosport.com/article1.cfm?id=10357&ref=home |
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28 Jun 2000, 17:22 (Ref:19999) | #2 | ||
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Well if it means that at least one works team commits (Vauxhall with the Astra) then I say go for it.
It not the size that matters but the quantity. |
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28 Jun 2000, 18:41 (Ref:20019) | #3 | ||
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kmchow, do they still have to fall into the '40mm-shorter-than-current-regs' measurement? I can't think there will be too many eligible entries... Are the 306's long enough?
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28 Jun 2000, 18:44 (Ref:20020) | #4 | ||
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Vauxhall are indeed the first works team to commit to next year! They have confirmed that they will be entering the Astra Coupe.
From the same family as their Rally and DTM cars! It is also suspected that we will see Ford Focus' (Focii?)hammering round the track. |
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28 Jun 2000, 19:39 (Ref:20035) | #5 | ||
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Wonder if Vauxhall will still commit to running 3 cars or if they'll go back to just two. Hopefully that Astra will prove to be better than the Vectra has ever been.
I just hope we get the grid numbers back up and see some decent racing - it wouldn't take much to be an improvement on what we've got this year! |
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29 Jun 2000, 11:26 (Ref:20206) | #6 | ||
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I agree with kmchow they've screwed up the rules for next year, but not his reasoning. I think most people like fast cars with much more power than grip. Just look at how popular TVR Tuscan racing is.
I think it would have been much better for the BTCC to follow DTM rules. Exciting cars, economies of scale for manufacturers, supply of second hand cars from other series. It seems it won't happen, but I think its a shame, watching 30 DTM cars come through Church at Thruxton on the first lap would certainly have been exciting! |
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29 Jun 2000, 20:29 (Ref:20319) | #7 | ||
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All very well and good Marshal, but at Thruxton spectators can't get to Church very easily...
The DTM Merc going up the hill at Goodwood impressed me, great car. |
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30 Jun 2000, 21:02 (Ref:20585) | #8 | ||
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A little RECAP.
which cars would be allowed? The vauxhal astra and Ford Focus are definite contenders but which cars would make the BMP cut and must they be hatchbacks? |
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30 Jun 2000, 21:33 (Ref:20598) | #9 | ||
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Why the criticism of the new rules folks ?
Copying the new DTM would have been stupid - the BTCC should aim to be the top series of it's type in the world - not a home for second hand machinery. If they'd introduced the DTM rules originally, it would have been great, but I think they've gone the right route here. Have any of you actually seen the NSC ? This is a 'basic' series - and it's GREAT racing! If the BTCC is the NSC plus the works teams & top drivers, it'll be a winner. I guess we've got to wait and see what happens - and don't forget what they were saying about the original 2ltr rules when they were running the multi class series dominated by Cossies ? |
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30 Jun 2000, 22:49 (Ref:20623) | #10 | |
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I agree Fatbloke.
British manufacturers are not intersted in rear wheel drive V8 machines, as Andy Rouse will find out. They are only in intersted in selling cars. What I beleive the Organisers should do is produce a championship for 2lt Coupes (BTCC) and a Championship for Saloons, 4 or 5 door, (NSCC) |
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30 Jun 2000, 22:56 (Ref:20626) | #11 | |
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I agree Fatbloke.
British manufacturers are not intersted in rear wheel drive V8 machines, as Andy Rouse will find out. They are only in intersted in selling cars. What I beleive the Organisers should do is produce a championship for 2lt Coupes (BTCC) and a Championship for Saloons, 4 or 5 door, (NSCC) |
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30 Jun 2000, 23:49 (Ref:20630) | #12 | ||
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Whew. For a while, I thought I was all alone in demanding for a saloon (4 or 5 door) only car series. Thanks to Peter S. Sadly, neither of us are in a position to influence many people. I think the DTM will be a German thing only. I think the rest of the world can better relate to small displacement and more affordable sedans rather than those large relatively expensive German ones.
I guess those people who are only interested in large number of cars (quantity) are too depressed about the current 10 car BTCC grids. =( Perhaps Peter S, I and others should start an email letter campaign to try and change BMPs mind about opening up the series to coupes/hatchbacks?? Do you think any big name manufacturer will race a sedan in the series? |
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1 Jul 2000, 03:58 (Ref:20694) | #13 | ||
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Since when can you "tour" in a 2 door hatchback? Come on. The whole series is supposed to be built around sedan touring cars. That's why I love it so much at least. 2 doors I see more as rally cars, let em stick to it
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