FIA World Touring Car Championship 2012 - Page 39

Jon411 · 25 Oct 2012, 17:27 (Ref:3157582)

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Originally Posted by Craner Curves

My thinking is that they have sold the Collard car to the Turkingtons, as that's the 2009-winning car. Do the end of season WTCC races in it with Colin as a farewell to it, then it becomes their possession and part of the family collection. It's the same car he tested at Pembrey with Yokos.

The Pemrey thing is a bit of a red herring I think in terms of the car - they would have to change the engine, intakes, bodywork and other stuff in order for the car to fit in with the WTCC regs which would be a waste for a 1-off outing.

If he's in a BMW I guess it's more likely to be the second Proteam (or if not Zengo) car liveried up like they did with the Wiechers car last year or just the sponsor decals on the side

hcch · 26 Oct 2012, 08:50 (Ref:3157883)

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Originally Posted by hcch

Rumor: Aviva-Cofco will sponsor a BMW team in WTCC 2012 Shanghai round

Surprise! Turkington in Curze ~~
http://www.fiawtcc.com/news/detail/id/438

W.A Trichlorostyrene · 26 Oct 2012, 09:44 (Ref:3157895)

GREAT to see Turks back to racing. Although being back in a FWD car might feel a bit strange for him

markreeves · 26 Oct 2012, 10:06 (Ref:3157907)

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Originally Posted by hcch

Surprise! Turkington in Curze ~~
http://www.fiawtcc.com/news/detail/id/438

That is a surprise, Great news

Craner Curves · 26 Oct 2012, 12:36 (Ref:3157967)

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Originally Posted by W.A Trichlorostyrene

GREAT to see Turks back to racing. Although being back in a FWD car might feel a bit strange for him

Give him a few laps to get the hang of it and he'll be back in the groove. He was a very good FWD driver before the switch.

**touringlegend** · 26 Oct 2012, 14:40 (Ref:3158038)

I might be mistaken but I do recall a big debate when WSR revealed they were using BMW's in 2007 with regards to how Turkington might struggle with RWD as his career had been solely FWD tintops, Fiestas etc..

Craner Curves · 26 Oct 2012, 15:11 (Ref:3158058)

I'm sure you're right. Good drivers can adapt, no problem. It was probably a blessing in disguise that the ProTeam car got wrecked at Sonoma and he couldn't use that. A Cruze turbo is a much more exciting and competitive proposition.

markreeves · 2 Nov 2012, 11:47 (Ref:3161540)

First look at Turk's Cruze: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-n5IeKCrVWS...031_112026.jpg

Bramzel · 2 Nov 2012, 13:00 (Ref:3161569)

FIAWTCC.com has several pics up from the car in its full livery:

W.A Trichlorostyrene · 2 Nov 2012, 13:14 (Ref:3161573)

Colin has set a great P5 in the unofficial Friday test, only 0.35 off P1, so he's not wasting time!

http://www.touringcartimes.com/article.php?id=8360

Spanner monkey · 3 Nov 2012, 10:17 (Ref:3161825)

What is it with the Focus? They have a good squad running the car but after all the testing & development through the year they are just over 2sec slower than HTCC champion Eric Kwong in a N/A Cruze? Dont think this season will tempt Ford to turn to AON for a fully backed attempt next year.

W.A Trichlorostyrene · 3 Nov 2012, 13:15 (Ref:3161869)

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Originally Posted by Spanner monkey

What is it with the Focus? They have a good squad running the car but after all the testing & development through the year they are just over 2sec slower than HTCC champion Eric Kwong in a N/A Cruze? Dont think this season will tempt Ford to turn to AON for a fully backed attempt next year.

James Nash was only 0.07 away from Q2 this morning.

touring fan01 · 3 Nov 2012, 14:42 (Ref:3161882)

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Originally Posted by W.A Trichlorostyrene

James Nash was only 0.07 away from Q2 this morning.

doesn't matter how far or close away from it, they should be in it!
they are just rubbish and really going no better at the end of the season than at the start, after all those thousands of kilometres of racing and testing and one of the biggest budgets out there.

**FIRE** · 3 Nov 2012, 14:59 (Ref:3161886)

They seem to have made no progress. Very disappointing season.

thlbtcc · 3 Nov 2012, 15:18 (Ref:3161890)

It is disappointing. From the outside looking in, they seem to be going backwards. The one big positive has been the performance of Nash. In this situation, all you can do is beat your team mate and he has thrashed Chilton.

**FIRE** · 4 Nov 2012, 12:50 (Ref:3162266)

Didn't see race 1 but race 2 had a great battle between Boardman, Monteiro, Turkington and Cerqui.

I don't think Menu invites Muller for his birthday party in the future.

Huff on pole for the championship...but with the final round at Macau you never know!

redshoes · 4 Nov 2012, 13:33 (Ref:3162291)

Missed race 1 as well. EPG must have been wrong as Sky+ didn't start recording until the last lap. Looks like I missed a good race.

Second race for me showed why there is still hope for the WTCC. Some people will just look at the results and see another Chevrolet walkover but miss the frantic midfield scrap.

W.A Trichlorostyrene · 4 Nov 2012, 14:59 (Ref:3162356)

Yes, good fights in midfield, but way too many incidents.

Jon411 · 4 Nov 2012, 15:00 (Ref:3162359)

The Sky EPG had the wrong timings in it again, Eurosport seem to be incapable of getting the EPG timings right for anything on either of their channels. By chance I woke up early and turned the TV on at 6:45 in time to see the field going through the last turn for the rolling start.

Madd_Dogg88 · 4 Nov 2012, 21:40 (Ref:3162601)

I've heard a few people having issues with EPG/Eurosport/Sky+ this morning, but I had no problems. There was FIA WTCC (warm-up) followed by Live FIA WTCC (race 1) followed by Live FIA WTCC (race 2) and they all recorded fine.

In terms of the races, they were certainly action packed! Not 100% convinced about the stewards work for the most part - ridiculous penalty for Norbi in race 1, yet a lot of much more 'interesting' stuff went seemingly unseen. As for letting D'Aste drive an entire race with an open door, that seems ludicrous to me. A potential danger to the driver, a potential danger to other cars and a potential danger to people around the trackside. They pull people in for a but of flapping bumper, but not a whole door?

All in all though, some good action and some great results for Huffy!

Craner Curves · 4 Nov 2012, 21:49 (Ref:3162606)

The problem was Eurosport HD didn't start until 7.15am, whereas Eurosport 1 started at 6.45am.

**gomick** · 4 Nov 2012, 23:37 (Ref:3162639)

Chevrolet are boring, totally dominant again. Heard Menu & Muller wont be team-mates next year, where are they at?

touring fan01 · 4 Nov 2012, 23:44 (Ref:3162641)

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Originally Posted by gomick

Heard Menu & Muller wont be team-mates next year, where are they at?

this a serious question?

Craner Curves · 4 Nov 2012, 23:45 (Ref:3162642)

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Originally Posted by gomick

Chevrolet are boring, totally dominant again. Heard Menu & Muller wont be team-mates next year, where are they at?

Nothing boring about them knocking the hell out of eachother every week.

pinkd56 · 5 Nov 2012, 00:02 (Ref:3162648)

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Originally Posted by gomick

Chevrolet are boring, totally dominant again. Heard Menu & Muller wont be team-mates next year, where are they at?

It's looking unlikely unless they both end up at the same place after Chevrolet's withdrawal.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Muller with Loeb at Citroen in 2014 though.

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