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Old 11 Feb 2018, 17:29 (Ref:3800526)   #106
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More falsehoods. there is no intention or goal to have yellow flags Its more a consequence of the way things have turned out as drivers go for the prestige of winning.

The bathurst 1000 in 2012 ran 3 hours to the finish, the last two years the race has been almost half over (by laps) before the first safety car. almost every years the 1000 has an average faster lap that 12 hour because of less safety cars and then usally less average laps under safety cars.

For instance even though the 1000 was ran on wets often 30 seconds a lap of qualifying pace it completed 161 laps quicker than the 12 hour did which was run in the dry (7hr11min compared 7hr18min) Clearly there is no interest in having prolonged periods of safety cars in the 1000. I can see no evidence its the goal of the 12 hour promoters ever (although Clearly many fans on here dont care)

To deny there isnt a safety car issue in the 12 hour is to put ones head in the sand

2017 Bathurst 1000 6 Safety cars for ten laps 7 Hours 11
2018 Bathurst 12 hour 17 Safety cars for 47 laps. 12 hours
50 cars vs 26.... what do you expect..seriously??
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Old 11 Feb 2018, 19:41 (Ref:3800552)   #107
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50 cars vs 26.... what do you expect..seriously??
Like i said clearly most fans on here dont care. The motto of many posters is Big fields are great because i get to watch increased safety cars.

Maybe we should change the name the bathurst 8 hour (+4 hours of Safety car)
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Old 11 Feb 2018, 20:40 (Ref:3800566)   #108
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Old 11 Feb 2018, 20:55 (Ref:3800567)   #109
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Oh dear another failed business venture about to happen. What are these people thinking???



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Old 11 Feb 2018, 22:35 (Ref:3800589)   #110
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There appears to this observer that there has been little effort to reduce the number of safety car interventions across the board in Australian motorsport.

Have CAMS tested a Code 60 or similar system?
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Old 11 Feb 2018, 23:47 (Ref:3800598)   #111
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Nice.

First one in the country, by my understanding.

Should give the BMWs a good shake, as they've been the class of the field pretty much everywhere else they've run.
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There appears to this observer that there has been little effort to reduce the number of safety car interventions across the board in Australian motorsport.

Have CAMS tested a Code 60 or similar system?
The best way to reduce Safety Car interventions is for Drivers to stay on the blacktop, and keep away from barriers and/or other cars
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Old 13 Mar 2018, 20:20 (Ref:3807797)   #113
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Should give the BMWs a good shake, as they've been the class of the field pretty much everywhere else they've run.
Not that there's anything wrong with that

Good to see Tony committing to running "the kids" again next year if they want it.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2018/03/13...t-12hr-chance/

Not sure of the business model though? /sarcasm
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But its not what class racing is. Class racing is not about big cars and little cars. Nor is it about managing traffic with "slower cars"

It is quite possible to have two classes that travel at similar times.

For instance last years (2017) the Class B and the invitational class had almost the same time. managing traffic was nothing to do with it. even this year it was pretty close, but it was not about managing traffic
You need to talk to the ACO about this- they've obviously been running Le Mans wrong since 1923...

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To deny there isn't a safety car issue in the 12 hour is to put ones head in the sand

2017 Bathurst 1000 6 Safety cars for ten laps 7 Hours 11
2018 Bathurst 12 hour 17 Safety cars for 47 laps. 12 hours
So a race 5 hours longer with almost twice the number of cars produces more safety car- Well there's a surprise...

Incidentally as to the 'smaller grids produce better racing' argument, some of us remember 1992 when the FIA managed to mess up Group C sportscars and about 29 cars started Le Mans- No-one ever talks about that as being one of the all-time classic LMs
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So a race 5 hours longer with almost twice the number of cars produces more safety car- Well there's a surprise...

Incidentally as to the 'smaller grids produce better racing' argument, some of us remember 1992 when the FIA managed to mess up Group C sportscars and about 29 cars started Le Mans- No-one ever talks about that as being one of the all-time classic LMs
not twice the amount of safety cars, almost 3 times as many, and almost 5 times as many laps

statistically it should have been about 11 safety cars, not 17.

the trend is constant at Bathurst and is seen in field sizes at the 12 hour over its history
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Incidentally as to the 'smaller grids produce better racing' argument, some of us remember 1992 when the FIA managed to mess up Group C sportscars and about 29 cars started Le Mans- No-one ever talks about that as being one of the all-time classic LMs
2005 US F1 was awesome too...
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Who is going to get to the Mountain on the Thursday next year to watch the Supercars have a test session?
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Who is going to get to the Mountain on the Thursday next year to watch the Supercars have a test session?
They will be disppointed, as I don't believe that it will happen.
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Additional day and additional support class here : http://www.bathurst12hour.com.au/new...r-expand-2019/

Surely not a Supercars test?
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