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Old 28 Sep 2012, 05:24 (Ref:3142848)   #91
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BMW M3s that placed 1st through 6th in the 1987 WTCC got disqualified for illegal panels (roof and bootlids I think?) handing victory to Moffatt and Harvey in the first of the Brock-built VL Group A Commodores.
i was told some of the BMWs that made it over here, were adjustable by radio/remote control making a mockery of the " no cockpit adjustmants to be made" rule
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Old 28 Sep 2012, 07:07 (Ref:3142881)   #92
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Moffat droping the upper control arms 1 inch to fool scrutineers, but gave the car a great advantage on the track

One of Brocks car 'allegedly' had something in a roll cage, I also heard Moffat did as well.

Oh and Peter Brock ran a Polariser -
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Old 28 Sep 2012, 10:51 (Ref:3143022)   #93
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Oh and Peter Brock ran a Polariser -
In the "Rise and Fall of Peter Brock" book, Mr Harvey recalls having a Polariser in his car too, til one day it loosened from its mounting bracket, and ended up under his feet. Duly flung out the window, the car's times got worse as a result
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Old 28 Sep 2012, 12:15 (Ref:3143090)   #94
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Was it Larry that had a delay in the brakelight wiring?
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From memory the Perkins cars were caught with this at the Albert Park GP in the late 90's. A resistor in the wiring that delayed the brakelights by a few tenths.

Absolutely ingenious idea!
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Old 28 Sep 2012, 12:40 (Ref:3143118)   #95
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There were stories of an ETCC entrant who spent several days testing modifications to the rear wing in order to produce something that was undetectable by the scrutineers unless they went looking for it. After a tip off, one of the other manufacturers protested it after first qualifying. The team were forced to replace the dodgy wing with one taken from the road cars in the paddock, wherupon the cars went over ˝ second quicker...
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Old 28 Sep 2012, 16:20 (Ref:3143291)   #96
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Weren't TWR notorious for homologating the Rovers & Jaguars with bits supposedly fitted to cars sold in Africa (wider wheel arches etc...), it led to them being referred to as "Third World Racing"

Wasn't there also a rumour that Gibson Motorsport had played with the fuel tank at Bathurst in 1995?

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I think the fuel in the roll cage is a Nascar trick - Google Smokey Yunick if you want to read some CRACKING stories about creative rule interpretation in motorsport. From building a 3/4 scale car, to driving a car away from scrutineering that had no fuel tank in it, that guy was an evil genius.
In his book, Smokey refutes both these stories
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Old 29 Sep 2012, 00:14 (Ref:3143482)   #97
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Fred Gibson apprently cleared up the whole fuel tank thing by saying that they had altered the mixtures off-throttle, and programmed in a rev limiter they could utilize under safety cars, etc.

The rev limiter was subsequently banned.
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Old 29 Sep 2012, 04:44 (Ref:3143542)   #98
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This.

From memory the Perkins cars were caught with this at the Albert Park GP in the late 90's. A resistor in the wiring that delayed the brakelights by a few tenths.

Absolutely ingenious idea!
Early noughties was when this happened. They were caught totally red handed by the onboard data monitor. At the time, Larry denied personal knowledge but accepted that the team had done it and copped the penalty.

Team member who did it later worked for Team Dynamik and ran a certain well-known test at Woomera.
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Old 29 Sep 2012, 04:47 (Ref:3143545)   #99
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In his book, Smokey refutes both these stories
I take it that you mean the 'fuel in cage' and 'scale car' stories? He is widely quoted including on video on the story of driving the car away from technical inspection with no fuel tank in it. A l-o-n-g fuel line that could hold a gallon or so of fuel was how that worked.
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Old 29 Sep 2012, 05:47 (Ref:3143562)   #100
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Some Sierras had a tyre valve fitted to inflate a bladder inside fuel tank to restrict capacity to 120 litres when scrutineered,rumor of one of Brock's Commodres with bigger motor init(1987 Bathurst)and broke a timing chain at the top of the mountain and still made it back to the pits hence did not finish-did not get check,,rumor back in Phase 3 days in qualifing would have a water tank on board to keep up to weight limit and would dump water on the way up the mountain once on the track????These last 2 are rumors I have heard from more than one source.
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Old 29 Sep 2012, 10:40 (Ref:3143643)   #101
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Wasn't there a thread floating around in the recent past about this kind of stuff?
Yes. Done before and in quite some detail.

http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=111304
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Old 30 Sep 2012, 13:13 (Ref:3144126)   #102
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Allegedly regarding Volvo 240T homologation:

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The cars were lined up in the USA for inspection by the FIA, the first row of cars ( approx. 30) was fitted with the Volvo Grp A competition kit rated at 225 hp @ 1.05 bar. These cars had the special parts, rear wing, water injection( the extra four injectors), large aluminum end tank intercooler,"220" cam, bigger radiator and turbo. The next couple of rows of cars had the competition kit in the trunk. It is rumored that not all the cars had the Grp A kit in the trunk as there were less than a couple hundred produced. After inspection the 30 or so cars with the competition kit fitted were shipped back to Europe because they would not pass the E.P.A requirements in that state of tune. The kits in the trunks of the cars were returned to Volvo competition, both the 30 cars and the kits were to be sold through the European dealer network. The remaining cars were sold in the USA by Volvo of north America.
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Old 30 Sep 2012, 23:36 (Ref:3144349)   #103
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Alan Heaphy admitted recently that WGR fitted a device that dropped a couple of litres of water in front of the rear wheels at Bathurst 1995 allowing Wayne Gardner to charge to the lead from the 2nd row of the grid.
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How does water improve traction, surely it was something other than water?
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Alan Heaphy admitted recently that WGR fitted a device that dropped a couple of litres of water in front of the rear wheels at Bathurst 1995 allowing Wayne Gardner to charge to the lead from the 2nd row of the grid.
I would have thought that Heaphy would have been happy for Captain Chaos to just get off the line without causing any dramas ?
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