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4 Aug 2010, 09:08 (Ref:2739262)
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''I used to run the 8v vw in ARP and a good one will have 20bhp more that a toyota''
hello all very interesting thread , i'm French classic F3 driver ( not this year ... bad year no monney !) Ben was your VW electronical (Spiess) or mechanical injection ( Judd Brabham) the restrictor diameter was 24mm or 26 mm ? i don't think there is really 20 hp between a mechanical VW and a Toyota of course both with a 24 mm restrictor we are some drivers who will like to race sometimes with you in UK but French classic F3 regulation for our cars is 1984 and flat bottom with some RT3 VW mechanical injection , may be it's possible in a guest class without classification in your championship have a look for Monza practice classification you can see maxi speed (right) very few difference between VW , Toy and Alfa 58 COPPA INTEREUROPA STORICA TROPHEE F3 CLASSIC CLASSIFICA FREE PRACTICE POS No CONCORRENTE/CONDUTT. NAZ TEAM AUTO GR CL TEMPO DIST GIR/TOT MEDIA VEL 1 80LEONE V. I RALT RT3 VW A 2'02.760 5/6 169.882 225.4 2 95KLEIN M. LUX CHEVRON B34 TOYOTA A 2'04.466 1.706 9/9 167.554 223.1 3 48VALLERY MASSON F MARTINI MK 21 RENA A 2'05.433 2.673 7/9 166.262 216.0 4 121BENEDINI E. I RALT RT3 ALFA A 2'05.909 3.149 6/8 165.633 226.4 5 90NEE R. FRA CHEVRON B 34 TOYOT A 2'05.936 3.176 4/6 165.598 222.6 6 25LAMMELIN J.P. F RALT RT3 ALFA A 2'06.061 3.301 8/8 165.434 7 141TROMANS G. MC MARTINI MK 34 TOYO A 2'06.369 3.609 7/9 165.030 215.1 8 57SALA M. I SALA SPECIALE TOYO A 2'06.738 3.978 7/8 164.550 212.5 9 16CHATEAUX M. F RALT RT3 ALFA A 2'07.678 4.918 7/7 163.339 219.0 10 111SANTIN A. I MARTINI MK 34 TOYO A 2'07.967 5.207 2/3 162.970 223.6 11 26ANDOUARD G. F DALLARA 381 TOYOTA A 2'08.434 5.674 3/7 162.377 225.4 12 21CHEMINOT L. F MARTNI MK 31 TOYOT A 2'08.817 6.057 7/8 161.894 217.7 13 73ARBEIT M. F RALT RT3 ALFA A 2'09.273 6.513 7/8 161.323 220.8 14 22LEMASSON P. F CHEVRON B34 TOYOTA A 2'09.678 6.918 3/7 160.819 218.1 15 19CLOUZEAU S. F RALT RT3 TOYOTA A 2'09.737 6.977 7/7 160.746 213.4 16 4EYNARD MACHET J F RALT RT3 TOYOTA A 2'09.764 7.004 7/7 160.713 218.1 17 41DELPLANQUE N. F MARCH 793 TOYOTA A 2'10.870 8.110 6/8 159.355 220.4 18 52NOTARI F. F RALT RT3 VW A 2'10.881 8.121 7/8 159.341 212.5 19 3LACOUR B. F MARCH 793 TOYOTA A 2'11.391 8.631 7/8 158.723 213.8 20 110CASTIGLIONI A. I RALT RT3 ALFA 2'12.400 9.640 6/7 157.513 222.2 21 20DUTHE A.G. F RALT RT3 VW A 2'12.675 9.915 8/8 157.187 210.1 22 36BIANCHI G. I ANSON ALFA A 2'14.570 11.810 5/7 154.973 215.5 23 28LEGUAY C. F MARTINI MK 38 RENA B 2'14.675 11.915 8/8 154.852 207.6 24 10HONNORAT B. F RALT RT 3 VW A 2'15.401 12.641 1/2 154.022 209.7 25 49BROSSEAU L. F MARTINI MK 30 RENA B 2'16.135 13.375 5/8 153.192 206.1 26 39VALLERY MASSON F MARTINI MK 36 RENA B 2'19.649 16.889 8/8 149.337 207.2 27 96DEL CONTE C. I ENSIGN LNF3 FORD A2 2'27.220 24.460 6/7 141.657 185.2 28 9DA-ROCHA F. F MARCH 793 TOYOTA A 2'27.682 24.922 6/7 141.214 182.1 29 100RIPAMONTI A. I LOTUS 69 FORD A2 2'49.014 46.254 1/2 123.390 153.4 best regards Alain |
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Hi Alain we had both but the Brabham tuned one was probably on a par if not slightly better it did have a gems ecu but just for the ignition mapping. We never really got the Speiss to work well and I am not sure on the Restrictor size. Hmm Interesting On another note the fastest car is a ralt rt3 vw 2 sec clear ok so he is not in a straight line but he could be using more wing. Note second is a Chevron B34 (no side pods less drag?) with a toyota and he is nearly 2 mph down?? I suppose you look at the next rt3 with toyota who is 15th not sure what to make of that could be driver or engine. Does the french championship allow any cars to run without flat bottom? Alain we are having a mould made for our 803b nose if you need one? Benn |
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Hi Benn
cheer for Brands , what a shame i cannot speak with you , when i'm coming with my favourite interpreter : my daughter , you was busy before the race , i need later only two sidepods and the screen , in this time i rebuilt the alloy monocoque and it's really a great job for the French regulation : 5.2 - Annulation de l’effet de sol pour les voitures Ă* partir des modèles 1981 inclus no ground effect from 81 to 84 : flat bottom Pour les voitures prĂ©-1980 le fond d’origine est admis. NĂ©anmoins les jupes sont interdites mĂŞme si en pĂ©riode elles existaient. before 1981 original bottom is authorized but without skirt so ok for your 803 Benn ..... welcome in France ! Monza races 1 and 2 for information 58 COPPA INTEREUROPA STORICA TROPHEE F3 CLASSIC CLASSIFICA RACE 1 POS No CONDUTTORE NAZ TEAM AUTO GR CL G TEMPO DISTACCO VEL GIROVELOCE 1 16CHATEAUX M. F RALT RT3 ALF A 14 28'41.355 169.614 Km/h 222.2 2'02.211 7 2 80LEONE V. I RALT RT3 VW A 14 28'48.851 7.496 226.8 2'02.503 8 3 90NEE R. 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I ANSON ALFA A GIRO VELOCE 7 CHATEAUX Matthieu 2'02.211 170.645Km/h Esposta alle ore: IL DIRETTORE DI GARA: Daniele Galbiati IL D.S. DI CRONOMETRAGGIO: Monza Timing - Nastasi E. 58 COPPA INTEREUROPA STORICA TROPHEE F3 CLASSIC CLASSIFICA RACE 2 POS No CONDUTTORE NAZ TEAM AUTO GR CL G TEMPO DISTACCO VEL GIROVELOCE 1 16CHATEAUX M. F RALT RT3 ALF A 14 28'37.515 169.993 Km/h 223.1 2'01.512 9 2 80LEONE V. I RALT RT3 VW A 14 28'42.814 5.299 223.6 2'01.946 10 3 95KLEIN M. LUX CHEVRON B34 A 14 28'59.470 21.955 224.5 2'03.905 11 4 90NEE R. FRA CHEVRON B 34 A 14 29'03.845 26.330 223.6 2'04.020 12 5 21CHEMINOT L. F MARTNI MK 31 A 14 29'12.230 34.715 220.8 2'04.297 13 6 26ANDOUARD G. F DALLARA 381 A 14 29'13.800 36.285 226.4 2'04.691 14 7 25LAMMELIN J.P. F RALT RT3 ALF A 14 29'28.934 51.419 225.0 2'05.806 9 8 48VALLERYMASSON L F MARTINI MK 2 A 14 29'29.352 51.837 223.1 2'05.859 8 9 141TROMANS G. MC MARTINI MK 3 A 14 29'53.246 1'15.731 218.1 2'06.972 11 10 20DUTHE A.G. 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5 Aug 2010, 11:42 (Ref:2739772)
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Hey Alain thats great news I may come over next year and have a race or two with you guys. Sorry to miss you later on but glad to hear your tub is coming along let me know when you want the body pannels and I will get the made for you. Sad news about Hot racer (Alan Everett) I knew him a little from ARP a really nice bloke who I am sure will be missed  Cheers Benn |
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So all we really need are a couple of 1980 RT1s! What I have noticed is that the French have a fairly laid back attitude to wings, splitters and general preparation, bearing in mind that I actually prepared some of the types of cars racing in the French series (and Tony Morris who works here with us was senior mechanic on Claudio Langes' Anson - he says that is all but unrecognisable today) and I really can't recall the spec that the owners put forward today! Our current CF3 is fine, yes we need more cars on the grid but they will come - be it 1600 or 2 litre - have faith!
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5 Aug 2010, 16:35 (Ref:2739917)
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5 Aug 2010, 21:09 (Ref:2740043)
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let me know when you want the body pannels and I will get the made for you.
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I agree that something needs to be done. At the moment the CF3 grids are sometimes severely undersubscribed. We need to understand that as a result our CF3 race does not pay its way towards its slot of tracktime. Currently the other races with full grids are subsidising CF3 racing. This wont go on forever, You can be sure of that. Either CF3 grids become financially viable or another type of car will eventually take up the slot. I have seen that happen in other series. Re Monaco: Originally I did think that this would give up CF3 a big boost. There are some drivers that just bought cars to get into Monaco, did that event and now - mission accomplished - mothball the car. I do very much like CF3 and my Ralt. I would like to see the series flourish. We need to get more cars out whatever that takes. My preference is to move the cut off date. If the 1600 cc drive succeeds instead, fine by me. I did write this mail to Grahame White of the HSCC: quote: Dear Graeme, coming back to the chat that we had at Silverstone last weekend: It is my personal opinion that Classic F3 should at least consider to move its cut off date forward to 1984. This would bring it in line with what is happening in Monaco and in the French Championship. Naturally the later cars should go into a seperate class. It also would have the added advantage to generate more potential F3 entries. At the moment CF3 invites FF2000s and even watercooled FVs to boost grids. My feeling is that I would rather race later F3s than cars from other Formulae. I would suspect that the spectators would agree. I think that CF3 has the potential to be a spectacular event but it just lacks a certain depth at the moment. I wish to make clear that I dont want to kick out the FF2000s which have supported CF3s when it needed it, just to get more F3s in. There is some feeling within CF3 that the HSCC has a certain age scope and would not be happy about moving the cut off date to include younger cars. You told me that HSCC would not have a problem with the later cars. In all fairness one would have to see how entries develop in 2010 and if the boost of racing at Monaco alone fills up the grids. Championship regulations cant be changed for 2010 anyway. The situation should be assessed after this season. I have to make clear that the above is my personal opinion alone and no way an official initiative on behalf of CF3. I would also suspect that there will be a fraction of CF3 that would want to retain the purity of its roots as it developed out of Toyota F3, but time moves on. I do believe in the value of public debate to see which point of view is the best or at the least the most popular. Kind Regards Rudolf Ernst unquote I did get a positive reply from the HSCC. Rudolf |
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I think that if you had been involved in Historic racing a little longer you would have known that whenever the date moves forward on a championship the net result is normally that the front runners mostly move up and the current midfield then withers and dies and the total numbers remain similar. In a few years the original championship is then reconstituted and we all begin again.....I can give you many examples of this - from Can Am cars coming in to GT racing in the 80s to the erosion of front engine F1 cars by Coopers to ARP really superceding TF3 and bringing us to precisely where we are today. You have to remember that when Tony Broster and Marcus Pye started TF3 they had heats and a final at Mallory Park!
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That was my greatest moment that day Simon.I led the race going into the hairpin "there was a great picture in Autosport".I then looked in the mirror to see what was going on behind got a bunch of neutrals and came out of the hairpin in about fifteenth.
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surely the top runners would buy a "newer" model then sell their old car to another racer, thus enhancing the grid?, why would the fast boys buy a newer car some might relish in the challenge of beating the cars with their old toyota f3.
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9 Aug 2010, 14:56 (Ref:2741948)
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I admire your optimism!
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10 Oct 2010, 09:58 (Ref:2772499)
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10 Oct 2010, 10:15 (Ref:2772503)
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10 Oct 2010, 10:49 (Ref:2772518)
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10 Oct 2010, 11:54 (Ref:2772552)
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I think VW engined cars would be allowed. The cars will also have to be flat-bottomed, the same as the French series.
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10 Oct 2010, 11:59 (Ref:2772557)
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Surley what is happening is that the HSCC would like to combine the championships that are having poor grids, CF3 and D.Bell, and this is the first step towards this. At the same time, combining the two will solve a few other problems.
CF3 can not justify its own race with the poor grids and so this seems inevitable. The key eliment is how to improve the CF3 grid nimbers. Trying to bring in 1600s will not significantly improve the grids and in my opinion, and the opinion of other CF3 racers, unless the way CF3 is being managed and promoted, which has lead to the disinterest in CF3 by the owners/drivers and the decline in grids, is not changed CF3 will continue to decline as a championship in its own right in the UK. I think too much damage has already been done to easily improve the situation and amazingly no one has bothered to seriously ask the opinions of the CF3 car owners and drivers. So like a number of other CF3 racers, I am looking to do a few races with the French next year. |
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you will be welcome in France Richard and it's possible now with the new UK regulation some French drivers can to race with you ( to learn speak and write English for me !) i'm in rebuilt a 813 Toyota # 09 ex DPR 1981 for the french driver Philippe Colonna
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I spoke with Richard Ranson several times at Silverstone yesterday, and he cares passionately about the future of CF3. I haven't heard any whispers about moves to absorb CF3 into the DBT races, but as you say Richard, it is vitally important that CF3 grid numbers increase to ensure that such a move is not to be considered. The existence of Historic FF2000 has possibly robbed their grids of two or three Invitation Class cars, but there are many more than two or three Toyota engined F3 cars which are currently sitting in workshops, unused.
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Thanks Alan and yes I do care passionately about CF3 and I find it very disappointing to hear such negative comments on this and other forums about the demise of CF3. We did ask members about the idea of moving the cut off dates forward and the strong opinion was leave well alone. Now RT3's have somewhere else to race maybe we can now get on with attracting more eligible F3's to come and play and I am confident of growth next year.
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I am also passionate about CF3 and firmly believe that if run correctly it could be a major European Historic Race Series, but I am criticle about the way it has been run over the last few years.
Five years ago I saw that unlesss changes to the way it was run were made that the grids would decline until the HSCC has to take the view that it is uneconomic to run it with its own individual races. Any input and suggestions others and I made were taken as critasysam rather than constructive input. I have now taken the view that I am wasting my time trying to improve the situation, but like any 'club member'/customer I think it is time to go elsewhere and the French run a great championship, at great tracks and welcomb us with open arms. Over the last year I have heard a lot of talk and rumor about the future of CF3, how to improve it and get cars out. Even though I have spent tens of thousands of pounds in the car and equipment, spend a lot of money each time I go racing no one has ever seriously asked for my opinions. That sort of disregard for the customer would not happen in the world of successfull business, but perhaps that is why CF3 has declining gride because the members are just plain dissatisfied and demotivated. Why do you think I have not done many races over the last few years! |
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Having been following CF3 quite closely for about 3 years it seems to me that there is a lot of potential in the format right through the field no matter what the personal objectives of the drivers involved.
There were some great races earlier in the year and whilst I missed the Silverstone Finals, earlier rounds at Silverstone and Oulton produced great dices for the lead and right the way through the order. It sounds like last Saturday was much the same. Just considering the more competitive element of the grid by my reckoning if all the cars that are around were fit to compete and turned out at each race there could be at least 6 cars regularly racing closely at or near the front. And that even allowing for people who are unable to be at every race. Looking at the lap charts from Saturday it looks like there levels of competition right through the first 10 or so at least - probably further. Good news for those who are there mainly for the fun and perhaps slightly more limited on budget. I noticed that some the regulars from recent years seems largely absent this year, maybe partly due to the Monaco effect, but that a few past participants made returns during the year. Assuming we don't see a secondary financial melt down over the winter it would be great to see more of the old hands doing a few more races than they have recently. How many are needed, race by race, to make the grid economically viable? |
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in safe guarding the cf3 why didn't they let in pre 84 ff2000s as suggested, now the few cars that will come to the hscc with their ff2000's will help fill the dbt grid rather than the cf3.
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Well this is certanly not helping attract people to the series!!! All this talk about badly run championship etc really is not helping so as the old saying goes if you dont have anything constructive to say please for all the people who do still like to race in cf3 do not say anything at all particularly on public forums where people who might be looking at cf3 could be put off. We are trying to promote the championship are we not?
I am very pleased to say the talk around the paddock was positive at Silverstone  . CF3 is a great championship with great cars which are reliable quick and great fun to race. When I joined I was made very welcome and have enjoyed my racing over the last couple of years. Our current format provides a very compettive level playing field so why change it. For the people who want to race there rt3's etc now can so everybody can now come and play without ruining the CF3 format. Seriously where else can you run a f3 from a trailer without the laptop and huge costs involved and still win the championship having not spent the most money. Stop moaning start racing and come and enjoy what is the best value winged f3 racing you will ever find in the uk at the best tracks in the country with the best club. Oh yeah you can also have a holiday and go play abroad with the same car as well what could be better.  Benn Simms CF3 champion 2007 2008 2010 and ill be back next year how bad can it be
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