HSCC 15/16 May Silverstone GP circuit

[john ruston]

In a perfect world!
Pigs flying unless you chuck a few out.

[simon drabble]

Terry I agree with your theory - so when Whizzo Williams says the rules need to be changed to allow slow cars penalised or be allowed to be overtaken he is in dream land and the rules stay as they are?

[terence]

Or a really good Race Control Team.

[grantp]

Originally Posted by PTRACER

It doesn't need multiple pace cars, pace cars remaining on track as the race starts or any other odd rule.

Paul,

I think there is a difference between rolling starts in relatively equal fields (all cars with nominally the same power and handling characteristics and/or Pro/Semi-pro driver type events) and the sort of mix one gets in many Historic club races. And that seems to be the present problem.

Perhaps there is a 'training' or 'Re-orientation' period required until people become familiar with them, the procedures are refined and the process becomes second nature. It may take a while especially when a few drivers participate rarely.

The multiple pace car suggestion was not intended to be permanent. Just something to consider whilst the learning process is underway. A training aid if you will.

[simon drabble]

Grant the first paragraph is spot on - ultimately it relies on the front cars "playing the game" after the pace car has pulled off

[james s]

Having been on the second row for this race i can assure you it was a very well controlled start, perfect formation and speed, i think i was in 3rd gear only around woodcote and i reckon full throttle about 30 yards before the lights.There was no"playing the game" going on as i remember.

[simon drabble]

James see post 198 - I agree with you but as SAMD said the problem normally starts a few more rows behind yours - consider it a post B8 issue!!

[johngee]

Firstly, let's get our terminology right. The leading car for a rolling start is the PACE CAR - and in Europe, they actually call it the 'leading car' - in English - or at least they do in France. Belgium, Holland and Germany.
The SAFETY CAR is used to neutralise the race, once started, for safety reasons. Sometimes, it's the same car, sometimes, because of the layout of the circuit, it's not.....but for the purposes of the start procedure it's the PACE CAR
Secondly, the rules for rolling starts are quite simple and are explained at every drivers briefing. If you don't understand them ask.....and then if you still don't understand them, ask again - it's what we're here for!
Break the rules and you take your chances, sometimes, like empty speed cameras or a traffic cop, looking the other way, you get away with it.....but don't complain if you don't. Simples!
See - I can be even more grumpy than John Ruston

[SAMD]

Originally Posted by johngee

Break the rules and you take your chances, sometimes, like empty speed cameras or a traffic cop, looking the other way, you get away with it.....but don't complain if you don't. Simples!
See - I can be even more grumpy than John Ruston

IMO This is an accurate summation.

[SAMD]

Not the very last bit!, the bit before it, but not the first bit which I didn't quote. ooooooooooooohh

[John Turner]

Aaaaaaaah, Cantonaaaaaa!

[SAMD]

[johngee]

I think I've lost the plot now

......and no slap for going off thread Mr T? You're slipping

[MGDavid]

Originally Posted by PTRACER

......It would just be up to the drivers to use their brains......

Ah, I think I've spotted a flaw in your argument

[terence]

Originally Posted by johngee

I think I've lost the plot now

......and no slap for going off thread Mr T? You're slipping

Not much change there then!

[John Turner]

You all went off topic ages ago; we had a thread on rolling starts very recently.

Now what about this meeting, especially on the Sunday. Anymore pics?

[delta]

Originally Posted by John Turner

Aaaaaaaah, Cantonaaaaaa!

Off topic what are you talking about here then John. BTW its Oooooo Aaaaaaa Cantona.

[SAMD]

Go back a post Iain

[PTRACER]

Originally Posted by SAMD

Not the very last bit!, the bit before it, but not the first bit which I didn't quote. ooooooooooooohh

Originally Posted by John Turner

Aaaaaaaah, Cantonaaaaaa!

[John Turner]

Dear old Iain, bless him!

[delta]

Not sure what ive missed but never mind. John do you fancy a trip over too Henley on Thames June 12th/13th. Terrance is comming and Mike Bell. You could hitch a lift.