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26 May 2004, 14:16 (Ref:983918) | #1 | ||
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Gronholm loses Cyprus win
The FIA has overturned Gronholm's Cyprus win, water pump irregularities, http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ly/3750589.stm
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So the win goes to Loeb then - didn't Citroen have the same part ? Wasn't it just a case of Peugeot didn't have it homologated ?
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i feel sorry for Gronholm .. he worked so hard to finally get another win and now they got it from him
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27 May 2004, 22:58 (Ref:985567) | #4 | |
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Stupid really because citroen and peugeot are the one company, if you have ever been to france (especialy if your going to charles de gaul on the bus) you will see they both come out of the same factory.
Maybe the water pump put waterthrew the engine faster than it should resulting in cooler engine temperatures resulting in better preformance (I doubt it, but just have an hack at it hehe ) Last edited by Cryos; 27 May 2004 at 23:01. |
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Peugeot had a plastic impellor whilst Citroen had an aluminium one.
Guess which one was homologated. Tough but fair. |
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28 May 2004, 11:02 (Ref:986079) | #6 | ||
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Is it me, or is that something the Peugeot team really should have thought of?
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28 May 2004, 11:41 (Ref:986126) | #7 | ||
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Especially as Colin McRae lost the Monte win a few years ago for EXACTLY the same reason.
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28 May 2004, 14:09 (Ref:986306) | #8 | ||
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the ford was kicked out as the pump was re-located, it was not using an illeagal part!
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28 May 2004, 14:45 (Ref:986350) | #9 | |
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So have Peugeot been using this part all year ??
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28 May 2004, 16:15 (Ref:986452) | #10 | |
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the answer is .... probably..
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Provera and the FIA "disagree" over Cyprus DSQs
Peugeot boss slams FIA decision
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5 Jun 2004, 08:42 (Ref:994512) | #12 | |
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Most probably, the fia have gotten an bit too strickt with their rules, the number of disqualifications because of technical issues has doubled or even trippled since 2001
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After the TTE turbo issue, I think that the FIA has been looking very closely at rally cars in general. There was a driver who won a round of the ARC, but was diqualified post event for having an illegal modification to the brake booster. The modification that had been made is one that Prodrive has been doing to all it's group N cars, where a solid pipe is inserted into the deactivated brake booster to retain brake pedal feel, and has been used for a number of years, by different teams/manufacturers.
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Apparently the plastic part was actually machined down to fit the pump - suggesting there's more to it than a simple mistake.
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