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Old 18 Dec 2007, 12:05 (Ref:2091209)   #1
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2008 sporting and technical regulations updated
Fresh off the FIA website.

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Old 18 Dec 2007, 13:57 (Ref:2091289)   #2
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Are there any major changes in there from last year, I don't know them off by heart or anything.
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Old 18 Dec 2007, 14:53 (Ref:2091317)   #3
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"Sporting" regulations??
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Old 18 Dec 2007, 15:27 (Ref:2091337)   #4
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One change I have already noticed to the Sporting Regs is in regards to testing, the 30000km per calendar year maxiumum and the more rigid definition of what is and what is not considered "testing".

Next Sporting observation is the 4 race gearbox.

Finished reading the Sporting Regulations, I don't see any other major/obvious changes besides those listed above.
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Old 20 Dec 2007, 19:08 (Ref:2092901)   #5
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Looks like Q3 will no longer have the fuel burn off, so it will be 5 minutes of nothing, followed by a mad scramble for pole - I like it!
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Old 20 Dec 2007, 19:22 (Ref:2092909)   #6
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"Q3 becomes 10 minutes, instead of 15," Domenicali added, explaining that competitors will no longer be allowed to add fuel to their cars before the Grand Prix."

hmmm.....interesting.
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Looks like Q3 will no longer have the fuel burn off, so it will be 5 minutes of nothing, followed by a mad scramble for pole - I like it!
More like 2 runs, with a little bit of time to find "empty" track
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Old 20 Dec 2007, 20:45 (Ref:2092963)   #8
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Does anyone else get the impression the Nero (Mad Max) is fiddling while Rome (F1) burns?
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More like 2 runs, with a little bit of time to find "empty" track
What do you mean by find "empty" tank? No need to burn anything off, just start with what you need for Q and the race. You don't put anything back in after Q3 if I am reading this correctly:
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What do you mean by find "empty" tank?
He said empty track, not empty tank.
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Good point, well made. I thought it was odd, which was why I questioned it! I'm off to practice reading, and sportsmanship.
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Does anyone else get the impression the Nero (Mad Max) is fiddling while Rome (F1) burns?
Perfect picture of the current situation !
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I can't see Rome being aloud to be burned! far from it! Maybe Woking or Milton Keynes.
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Let's not get into geography and recent wounds, after all we're still alive. The vision of Max with an harp trying to produce something close to music is comedy enough for this season, a perfect finale.
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At the rate they are going, i predict that by 2010, the sporting regulations will be abolished, and by 2012, the technical regulations will be abolished.

Afterall, you won't need sporting regs for a business model, and what are technical regulations for if everyone is racing a push-cart.
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Spare cars are banned from 2008, I just read. I hope the FIA is aware of the consequences of that ban.
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Which consequences are you referring to? One could be drivers unwilling to go out much on Friday due to fears of smashing the car up and taking an early retirement from the weekend before qualifying has even begun.
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Seems to have been confirmed now.

http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2007/...ifying-format/

That last ten minutes should be really good.
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At the rate they are going, i predict that by 2010, the sporting regulations will be abolished, and by 2012, the technical regulations will be abolished.
2011 looks set to be a classic then.
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At the rate they are going, i predict that by 2010, the sporting regulations will be abolished, and by 2012, the technical regulations will be abolished.

Afterall, you won't need sporting regs for a business model, and what are technical regulations for if everyone is racing a push-cart.
This may give you some idea of what the FIA have in mind for the future.

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More changes to sporting regs and sporting code.

Confirms qualifying changes.

http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public...df?Openelement

New sporting code.

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Seems to have been confirmed now.

http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2007/...ifying-format/

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Doesn't actually confirm there is no refuelling after Q3, I hope that wasn't just wishful thinking by Planet F1.
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Doesn't actually confirm there is no refuelling after Q3, I hope that wasn't just wishful thinking by Planet F1.
Article 29 (b) of refuelling states.

"Fuel may not be added to nor removed from any car eligible to take part in Q3 between the start of Q3 and the start of the race, unless any eligible car was unable to take part in which case c) below."

29 c basically says that they have to declare the amount of fuel they wish to start the race with in writing and then the refuelling can be done after being released from parc ferme.

So they'll be qualifying with lots of fuel onboard.
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