WTCC at Nuerburgring Nordschleife?

werner · 21 Nov 2007, 10:46 (Ref:2072366)

At www.autosport.nl a journalist says that there are some people trying to organiza a WTCC-race in the weekend of the 24h-race. Although the plans are still very immature, he has some positive reactions from Priaulx, Coronel and Mario Thiessen.
He points out that S2000-cars are able to race on the track, proven by several S2000-cars joining the 24h-race, and the ADAC-procarserie witch succesfully races in the same weekend.

I think it's a good plan. Maybe they should make it a 200km race for double points, because otherwise the races would only last 2 laps.

Bramzel · 21 Nov 2007, 10:59 (Ref:2072376)

I would love to see this happen. Just think of the atmosphere, and a race on the Nordschleife would also draw a lot of extra participants I'd say.

Stefvh · 21 Nov 2007, 11:18 (Ref:2072384)

I don't think this will happen.

But, who knows, it could be really great.

ss_collins · 21 Nov 2007, 13:46 (Ref:2072488)

That would be fever and actually its not beyond the realms of reality

SALEEN S7R · 21 Nov 2007, 15:38 (Ref:2072552)

If this actually happens it would be fantastic. Theres no real reason why it shoudnt happen either providing everything is planned out properly. It should certainly make for some fantastic racing anyway.

Sodemo · 21 Nov 2007, 16:38 (Ref:2072599)

The front wheel drive teams won't be happy with it - guaranteed.

I'm sure BMW would love the prospect of a long race though.

**FIRE** · 21 Nov 2007, 19:28 (Ref:2072710)

Would be great

[whishful thinking mode]
500 km race, two drivers/car, WTCC + Procar + BTCC + STCC + RTCC + ITCC + PTCC + DTC

[/whishful thinking mode]

PorscheFanNo1 · 21 Nov 2007, 21:00 (Ref:2072820)

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIRE

Would be great

[whishful thinking mode]
500 km race, two drivers/car, WTCC + Procar + BTCC + STCC + RTCC + ITCC + PTCC + DTC

[/whishful thinking mode]

Now THAT sounds interesting! Would beat the crap out of ETC Cup!

Speed-King · 21 Nov 2007, 21:20 (Ref:2072841)

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIRE

Would be great

[whishful thinking mode]
500 km race, two drivers/car, WTCC + Procar + BTCC + STCC + RTCC + ITCC + PTCC + DTC

[/whishful thinking mode]

I like your way of thinking, but that would surely require an own event and not just a support race for the 24hrs.

**FIRE** · 21 Nov 2007, 21:25 (Ref:2072853)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed-King

I like your way of thinking, but that would surely require an own event and not just a support race for the 24hrs.

I know (unfortunaly), that's why I used [whishful thinking mode] tags)

roachy101 · 22 Nov 2007, 13:39 (Ref:2073515)

could be an interesting idea.....

Matt · 23 Nov 2007, 18:38 (Ref:2074329)

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIRE

Would be great

[whishful thinking mode]
500 km race, two drivers/car, WTCC + Procar + BTCC + STCC + RTCC + ITCC + PTCC + DTC

[/whishful thinking mode]

Why two drivers per car? You only need two for races over 1000km.

E46 · 26 Nov 2007, 08:03 (Ref:2075560)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt

Why two drivers per car? You only need two for races over 1000km.

Old ETCC races (and 1987 WTCC) were 500km long and the teams used two or three drivers per car. I don´t see your point saying two for races over 1.000km.

Yannick · 26 Nov 2007, 13:46 (Ref:2075794)

It's a nice prospect for sure, but still, some safety updates would be required from the Nordschleife track.

flor · 26 Nov 2007, 14:01 (Ref:2075801)

why, they drive much faster cars during the 24hrs

SALEEN S7R · 26 Nov 2007, 14:04 (Ref:2075803)

Indeed the cars in the Nurburgring 24 hours are far quicker than a WTCC car, and seeing as they dont normally have any safety issues I dont see why the WTCC should be any different.

werner · 26 Nov 2007, 17:10 (Ref:2075906)

There are cars racing witch are faster than the WTCC-cars are. But that doesn't mean that racing S2000-cars at the ring is safe, it only means that the VLN-drivers are apparently willing to take some more risk than may be found acceptable in the WTCC. And if you see the driving in WTCC, people might get hurt at the ring. It really is a dangerous track.
The question is: is it worth the risk. I say yes, especially since they also let the drivers loose on places like Porto (chicane), Curitiba (last corner) or Puebla (loose tarmac and some concrete walls)

Matt · 26 Nov 2007, 21:02 (Ref:2076030)

I see absolutely nothing wrong with the final corner of Curitiba....

Jimmy Magnusson · 26 Nov 2007, 22:38 (Ref:2076103)

Quote:

Originally Posted by werner

There are cars racing witch are faster than the WTCC-cars are. But that doesn't mean that racing S2000-cars at the ring is safe, it only means that the VLN-drivers are apparently willing to take some more risk than may be found acceptable in the WTCC.

Not really... all tracks (to my knowledge) have to be saftey classified by the FIA and put into a category. For example there are licenses for tracks to be eligible hold Formula One, everything except Formula One and so on. You can race a GT2 racecar on the Nordschliefe, but GT1's aren't allowed. Can't just stick any type of racecar on a circuit and say "I'll accept the risks". There's regulations that dictate those things.

werner · 27 Nov 2007, 06:20 (Ref:2076262)

Is the Nuernburgring FIA-classified? Well, they do licence the Monte-Carlo circuit for F1, so they are aparently willing to make some special arrangements for special circuits.

duke_toaster · 27 Nov 2007, 16:43 (Ref:2076624)

Quote:

Originally Posted by werner

Is the Nuernburgring FIA-classified? Well, they do licence the Monte-Carlo circuit for F1, so they are aparently willing to make some special arrangements for special circuits.

I'm not sure if it's licenced for FIA events, it probably isn't. The DMSB have probably licenced it. I don't think it will get past Appendix Q TBH. If it hosts F1, WTCC or FIA GT it needs to be inspected.

Is the Nurburgring 24 televised though? It would be nigh on impossible to effectively televise or marshall, especially if some of the support events go on the ring.

flor · 27 Nov 2007, 17:01 (Ref:2076633)

yes there is live television. there are parts without cameras obviously, but for them they have onboard cameras or the helicopter. it was the same with the last dtm race on the nordschleife.

Sodemo · 27 Nov 2007, 18:35 (Ref:2076697)

Quote:

Originally Posted by duke_toaster

I'm not sure if it's licenced for FIA events, it probably isn't. The DMSB have probably licenced it. I don't think it will get past Appendix Q TBH. If it hosts F1, WTCC or FIA GT it needs to be inspected.

Is the Nurburgring 24 televised though? It would be nigh on impossible to effectively televise or marshall, especially if some of the support events go on the ring.

Yeah, you could probably spead the cameras out more than you would normally when covering a track, so you might have two cameras covering the whole of the Dottinger Hohe etc, there would certainly be some long shots in order.

AxelF · 27 Nov 2007, 23:01 (Ref:2076880)

The question is: does anyone want to see a race about 2 laps ?????

The distance for WTCC should be spread to 100 or more km...

Today, german magazine "Motorsport aktuell" announces, that this rumour about the Nurburgring is not true...they call it a internet rumour without any evidence...

Day · 27 Nov 2007, 23:07 (Ref:2076885)

There is a lot of spectator safety fencing going up around the Nurburgring lately, one can only assume that this might aid any future FIA event.

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