BTCC 2013, Brands Hatch, Rounds 28, 29, 30 - Page 3

psq43 · 10 Oct 2013, 20:46 (Ref:3315990)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

any bets IF he gets replaced it will be the likes of Thomo or Giovanardi ? Honda could surely afford a star driver to act as rear gunner for Shedden

they need someone who raced in BTCC and is really fast otherwise there is no point entering that 2nd Civic

Giovanardi has been the standby man for the last two similar instances, unless I have double vision and it was only last year.

In my defence, if I'm wrong, I have just ate a triple decker marmite sandwich.

davyboy · 10 Oct 2013, 20:54 (Ref:3315996)

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Originally Posted by Biscuits In A Red Bull

I thought, from the sounds of it, that Marshall Amps brought in sponsorships prior to Oulton, the supposed debut.

Probably there to make the car look good - which it did - the project was ostensibly underwritten by Neate.

TimRTC · 10 Oct 2013, 21:14 (Ref:3316009)

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Originally Posted by psq43

In my defence, if I'm wrong, I have just ate a triple decker marmite sandwich.

Yes that sounds pretty wrong, the sandwich that is.

With the constructors titles still open I am sure they will want a 2 car lineup.

TimRTC · 11 Oct 2013, 10:10 (Ref:3316210)

Neal is racing this weekend:

https://twitter.com/hondaracingbtcc/...96181892206592

Jiiiiiiim · 11 Oct 2013, 15:16 (Ref:3316305)

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Originally Posted by TimRTC

Neal is racing this weekend:

https://twitter.com/hondaracingbtcc/...96181892206592

Interestingly when Neal did his 6 laps to see how he got on Mr Menu was having a few laps to familiarise himself with the Civic in case Matt couldn't race! Glad Matt is having a go, tho I am sure it's an extra boost for Jordan that Matt has one hand tied behind his back (well not quite)

Sodemo · 11 Oct 2013, 15:36 (Ref:3316312)

A shame, I would have quite liked to have seen Menu back in a BTCC car again.

**BertMk2** · 11 Oct 2013, 15:56 (Ref:3316316)

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Originally Posted by Sodemo

A shame, I would have quite liked to have seen Menu back in a BTCC car again.

Hands up all those that would rather see Menu in the car this weekend

Craner Curves · 11 Oct 2013, 16:03 (Ref:3316322)

Not me. Imagine the moaning about parity?!

TimRTC · 11 Oct 2013, 16:05 (Ref:3316325)

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Originally Posted by BertMk2

Hands up all those that would rather see Menu in the car this weekend

I always enjoy seeing guest drivers - but it would reduce the title fight to Shedden vs. Jordan and of the three potential victors, I would rather see Matt Neal take the championship again, his driving has been less confrontational this season and he complains less than Flash.

Biscuits In A Red Bull · 11 Oct 2013, 16:05 (Ref:3316326)

To be fair, Matt's got a championship to try to win. As awesome as it would be to see Menu return, Neal would have to be missing his hand for that to happen at this stage...

BtccLee · 11 Oct 2013, 16:19 (Ref:3316336)

Quick question. You can get into the back of the Brands Hatch pits at any time can't you as opposed to only for the pitlane walk about?

Craner Curves · 11 Oct 2013, 16:30 (Ref:3316341)

Nope. Only accessible for those with passes or the correct Dunlop freebie tickets.

psq43 · 11 Oct 2013, 23:24 (Ref:3316496)

Just in case anybody is curious, or often wonders about these things, and partly because I've been bored due to being off work after a run in with a surgeons knife, I've calculated the points based on both the current, and the old points scoring system, including fastest laps, laps led, poles etc etc

Have a look if you have nothing better to do

Old System Current System
52 Remaining 67 Remaining
1 Jordan 245 1 Jordan 378
2 Shedden 232 2 Neal 344
3 Neal 222 3 Shedden 343
4 Plato 219 4 Turkington 330
5 Turkington 205 5 Plato 329
6 Tordoff 143 6 Tordoff 250
7 Morgan 94 7 Morgan 208
8 Jackson M 88 8 Jackson M 188
9 Austin 83 9 Smith A 173
10 Smith A 72 10 Austin 154
11 Newsham 52 11 Newsham 148
12 Onslow-Cole 51 12 Smith J 132
13 Smith J 51 13 Onslow-Cole 129
14 Collard 44 14 Collard 121
15 Foster 24 15 Foster 98
16 Wrathall 16 16 Wrathall 70
17 Welch 10 17 Welch 69
18 Bratt 6 18 Goff 42
19 Goff 6 19 Bratt 32
20 Caine 3 20 Jackson O 24
21 Jackson O 1 21 Cole 11
22 Hill 0 22 Caine 8
23 Nye 0 23 Wood 8
24 Kaye 0 24 Fuller 6
25 Moffat 0 25 Griffin 6
26 Cole 0 26 Kaye 5
27 Wilmot 0 27 Nye 3
28 Fuller 0 28 Gallagher 3
29 Gallagher 0 29 Holland 3
30 Holland 0 30 Moffat 2
31 Scott 0 31 Scott 1
32 Wood 0 32 Hill 0
33 Neate 0 33 Wilmot 0
34 Bushell 0 34 Neate 0
35 Mason 0 35 Bushell 0
36 O'Neill 0 36 Mason 0
37 Griffin 0 37 O'Neill 0
38 Girling 0 38 Girling 0

Once we get to the 0's, the names appear in that order only because of their entry number, not reflecting actual championship position/points.

A few changes readily noticeable......discuss....maybe

psq43 · 11 Oct 2013, 23:37 (Ref:3316498)

...and for some reason this site wont recognise TABS and Collumns!

thetool · 11 Oct 2013, 23:48 (Ref:3316502)

I'd say the old system would be giving us a much more exciting season finale.

porsche962fan · 12 Oct 2013, 10:00 (Ref:3316637)

FF1 over

Jake Hill really impressive !! Matt Neal fastest Honda despite his problems

Greem · 12 Oct 2013, 12:46 (Ref:3316677)

Oopsie. Aron Smith rolled his Focus at Druid's. Bit of a mess.

**touringlegend** · 12 Oct 2013, 14:20 (Ref:3316691)

Bit unclear now but it seems it may have been taking avoiding action from a rejoining Wrathall and/or Ollie Jackson.

Car looks a mess it's ripped off the front NS I guess it'll be a no for qualifying.

CarsCarsCars · 12 Oct 2013, 15:01 (Ref:3316705)

Lucky Austin wasnt following Newsham during that spin

cos · 12 Oct 2013, 15:07 (Ref:3316708)

Ouch - heavy shunt for Neal.

adstubbs · 12 Oct 2013, 15:13 (Ref:3316710)

Post 4 gets another visitor; hope Neal's OK, looks like he gave his already injured hand quite a bash

psq43 · 12 Oct 2013, 15:20 (Ref:3316713)

And with that, I think Gow may as well take the championship trophy off to be engraved right now.

Andy Jordan has it pretty much on his mantelpiece with that crash.

Short of having him kidnapped or the car stolen by aliens, its his

porsche962fan · 12 Oct 2013, 15:36 (Ref:3316715)

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Originally Posted by psq43

And with that, I think Gow may as well take the championship trophy off to be engraved right now.

Andy Jordan has it pretty much on his mantelpiece with that crash.

Short of having him kidnapped or the car stolen by aliens, its his

you forget Shedden with only 1 point behind Neal

it would take just 1 DNF or DQ for Jordan in either race 1 and race 2 and Shedden could bang it !!

Could Dynamics still replace Neal for tomorrow or the rules prohibit that ??

davyboy · 12 Oct 2013, 15:39 (Ref:3316719)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

you forget Shedden with only 1 point behind Neal

it would take just 1 DNF or DQ for Jordan in either race 1 and race 2 and Shedden could bang it !!

Could Dynamics still replace Neal for tomorrow or the rules prohibit that ??

I think Neal will be OK for tomorrow. He'll have had his hands off the wheel when it hit the barriers. Hopefully they can get the car in decent enough shape to be competitive so that he can make a go of it.

psq43 · 12 Oct 2013, 15:40 (Ref:3316720)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

you forget Shedden with only 1 point behind Neal

it would take just 1 DNF or DQ for Jordan in either race 1 and race 2 and Shedden could bang it !!

Could Dynamics still replace Neal for tomorrow or the rules prohibit that ??

I don't think so. Andy been thinking about his driving this year and keeping out of trouble. He doesn't even need to finish ahead of Gordon at all tomorrow.

Cruise and collect.

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