Official Monaco Grand Prix 2014 - Page 3

Tucky · 24 May 2014, 14:18 (Ref:3409836)

Driver's under stewards review as well as Rosberg are Perez, Gutierrez, Maldonado and Kvyat (all for impeding) and of course Ericsson, for trying to join his car with Massa's

321Go · 24 May 2014, 14:25 (Ref:3409837)

That incident was not Ericsson's fault. Massa should have pulled over more and not turned in so quickly. He had the room.
I see it as 80% Massa's fault.

fieldodreams79 · 24 May 2014, 14:28 (Ref:3409838)

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Originally Posted by Born Racer

I see Hamilton making a move tomorrow and a messy end.

Ricciardo is going to win this one.

Not sure about Ricciardo wining, but the tension has been building to a boil between LewLew and Nico. I think Monaco is where it comes to a head and believe it will end in tears for both as well. I say it happens at Nouvelle, lap 2.

Seeing Nico's "off" again just now, in my mind, that was totally on purpose, but how would he have known to do that? And I don't know how the FIA proves that it was and punishes him for it. Lewis will do his best to punish him.

As much as I dislike both, this is the most interesting aspect of F1 this year. Hope it continues.

Tucky · 24 May 2014, 14:33 (Ref:3409839)

I disagree 321Go. Yes, Massa could have gone closer to the outside barrier, but there was still enough room on the inside. Ericsson just seems to lose the back end in braking, forcing him to correct and slide wide. Nothing he could really do about it in my opinion.

djinvicta · 24 May 2014, 14:36 (Ref:3409840)

Yes. Massa left loads of room.

321Go · 24 May 2014, 14:45 (Ref:3409843)

Rosberg and Mercedes officials have just been summoned to the stewards room.

Oh boy, just imagine if Rosberg is penalised for unsafe re-entry! And loses his pole position!?

Apple · 24 May 2014, 14:45 (Ref:3409844)

I think yes
Because having made a mistake he would have pulled up at the end of the run off and parked the car.
Not reversing back on to the track thus keeping the yellow flags out.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 24 May 2014, 14:52 (Ref:3409846)

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Originally Posted by 321Go

That incident was not Ericsson's fault. Massa should have pulled over more and not turned in so quickly. He had the room.
I see it as 80% Massa's fault.

Massa left Ericsson with enough room to get by and I was quite surprised when Ericsson ran into Massa.

Apple · 24 May 2014, 14:57 (Ref:3409851)

Did Rosberg mess up Hamiltons lap
I think yes
Because having made a mistake he would have pulled up at the end of the run off and parked the car.
Not reversing back on to the track thus keeping the yellow flags out.

321Go · 24 May 2014, 14:58 (Ref:3409852)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Massa left Ericsson with enough room to get by and I was quite surprised when Ericsson ran into Massa.

Ericsson was on a fast lap, Massa was slowing. And Massa's car was still half on the race line into the corner. Massa did not leave enough room, and the on board shot of Massa shows he's already turning into the corner before Ericsson had passed! I stand by my opinion. Massa has to take the major portion of the blame.

**Adam43** · 24 May 2014, 14:59 (Ref:3409853)

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Originally Posted by djinvicta

Yes. Massa left loads of room.

Yes. Quite clearly. Ericsson slide wide while trying to go past.

**Adam43** · 24 May 2014, 15:00 (Ref:3409854)

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Originally Posted by djinvicta

This scenario had to HAPPEN didn't it? Lets see how Niki Lauda knocks there heads together, but youll never stop it. Makes it all the more interesting year.

Have they fallen out then? Crikey.

321Go · 24 May 2014, 15:09 (Ref:3409856)

The Rosberg investigation is about to begin, but Rosberg cannot make the stewards inquiry as he has a previous appointment that he has to keep. So it will be just Mercedes rep's at the investigation.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 24 May 2014, 15:16 (Ref:3409858)

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Originally Posted by 321Go

Ericsson was on a fast lap, Massa was slowing. And Massa's car was still half on the race line into the corner. Massa did not leave enough room, and the on board shot of Massa shows he's already turning into the corner before Ericsson had passed! I stand by my opinion. Massa has to take the major portion of the blame.

I didn't see it that way and at the time, I thought Ericsson looked a little out of control.

djinvicta · 24 May 2014, 15:25 (Ref:3409861)

Ericsson was well out of control

321Go · 24 May 2014, 15:34 (Ref:3409863)

BTW, Vettel, Ricciardo and Kvyat are all now on their third PU for the season. A maximum of five for the year allowed, and we're only into the sixth of nineteen rounds!

321Go · 24 May 2014, 15:39 (Ref:3409866)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

I didn't see it that way and at the time, I thought Ericsson looked a little out of control.

The stewards did not agree with me either. Ericsson gets 2 points on his licence and has to start from Pitlane. He qualified in last spot so no biggie anyway.

nobster · 24 May 2014, 15:40 (Ref:3409867)

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Originally Posted by 321Go

BTW, Vettel, Ricciardo and Kvyat are all now on their third PU for the season. A maximum of five for the year allowed, and we're only into the sixth of nineteen rounds!

That will be messed up grids if it goes on like that, what's the penalty anyway for using more then the allowed ones?

321Go · 24 May 2014, 15:54 (Ref:3409871)

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Originally Posted by nobster

That will be messed up grids if it goes on like that, what's the penalty anyway for using more then the allowed ones?

If a driver was to use more than five of any one of the six separate elements that make up the PU, the penalties applied will be as follows:

The first time a 6th of any of the elements is used = Ten grid place penalty.
The first time a 6th of any of the remaining elements is used = Five grid place penalty.
The first time a 7th of any of the elements is used = Ten grid place penalty.
The first time a 7th of any of the remaining elements is used, and so on = Five grid place penalty.

321Go · 24 May 2014, 15:58 (Ref:3409873)

Kvyat has just been handed a reprimand for impeding Maldohnado. As expected really.

MGDavid · 24 May 2014, 15:59 (Ref:3409875)

Given their grid positions the units being replaced can hardly be called broken; presumably they can be re-installed later in the season?

djinvicta · 24 May 2014, 16:05 (Ref:3409876)

Would love to know whose more important to see rather than the Stewards when youre defending pole position.

321Go · 24 May 2014, 16:14 (Ref:3409877)

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Originally Posted by MGDavid

presumably they can be re-installed later in the season?

According to 2014 FIA Sporting Regulations Article 28.4 (g):

g) If a power unit or any of the six components within it are changed in accordance with Article 34.2 the power unit components which were replaced may not be used again during any future qualifying session or race with the exception of the last Event of the Championship.

321Go · 24 May 2014, 16:23 (Ref:3409879)

The Stewards have just ruled no further action regarding Rosberg. He keeps his pole position.

djinvicta · 24 May 2014, 16:28 (Ref:3409880)

Whichever way they went, it pours fuel on the fire. Watch this explode..

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