Lites / LMP3 - Page 41

S griffin · 15 Sep 2016, 18:54 (Ref:3672624)

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Originally Posted by Ephaeton

As such it should make greg998 quite happy

Yeah I bet he'll start work as soon as he sees that post

bentley speed 8 · 15 Sep 2016, 19:21 (Ref:3672628)

I still find it the ugliest of the LMP3 bunch, though the paint makes it look a little better.
But at this rate, I don't think we will see it in the ELMS this year...

FormulaFox · 15 Sep 2016, 20:21 (Ref:3672636)

From what I've heard, the LMP3 project has been somewhat neglected in favor of developing the LMP2. Ave has done more of the work than generally been assumed.

TheMightyM · 15 Sep 2016, 23:06 (Ref:3672651)

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Originally Posted by bentley speed 8

But at this rate, I don't think we will see it in the ELMS this year...

And you would be correct. Per S365, the Ave-Riley LMP3 race debut has now been pushed back to 2017:

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The Ave-Riley AR-2 will not make its race debut until early next year, following a decision to delay the LMP3 car’s homologation in order to evaluate further aero developments.

The American-built LMP3 car, which was slated to debut in this year’s European Le Mans Series with Murphy Prototypes, is on now on track to be ready for the 2017 IMSA and ELMS seasons, according to project leader Tony Ave.

“I’ve sold enough of them now, that I’m better off letting the guys that bought them test this one. It keeps me over here so we can get them done in time for March,” Ave told Sportscar365.

Ave said he’s already sold six cars, with the first completed chassis, which took part in a multi-day test at the Red Bull Ring in July, on display in the paddock at Circuit of The Americas this weekend.

A testing and development program is planned for the next 45 days, which will see the final configuration of the car locked down, prior to the ACO’s final inspection, which Ave said is scheduled for December.

More here.

Coach Ep · 16 Sep 2016, 01:48 (Ref:3672690)

I can see it being not FIA homologated after all but allowed into IMSA's Lites next year nevertheless.

MoMedic9019 · 16 Sep 2016, 14:29 (Ref:3672788)

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Originally Posted by Coach Ep

I can see it being not FIA homologated after all but allowed into IMSA's Lites next year nevertheless.

All they are doing is ensuring they have the best aero prior to homologation... Pretty silly to homologate a car that will have a competitive disadvantage.

MoMedic9019 · 27 Sep 2016, 16:19 (Ref:3675531)

ESM have bought a Ligier LMP3

Matt · 27 Sep 2016, 16:35 (Ref:3675536)

For Ed to race on the non-NAEC weekends?

Bob Baldwin · 27 Sep 2016, 16:35 (Ref:3675538)

New TOY for ED ?
Perhaps dropping down a class ?

HORNDAWG · 27 Sep 2016, 16:48 (Ref:3675541)

ESM has 3 full time and 1 part time participants in IMSA lights L1 class, I would imagine it is in prep of staying in the top class of car (now P3), for the new '17 PC series.

L.P.

broadrun96 · 27 Sep 2016, 18:08 (Ref:3675560)

Think they have all four here at a road Atlanta this week. I wouldn't be surprised to see a few LMP3s in their team, Dayson in the 12 has already said he looks forward to a season in the LMP3 car and probably has the funds to buy a chassis or two. His teammate, Hanratty will benefit from this and would not be surprised to see them in a WSC P car in the future.

Wouldn't be surprised to see a BAR1 liveried LMP3 car next season as well. If they find a driver, or the boss wants to run in the top class, of course.

HORNDAWG · 27 Sep 2016, 19:42 (Ref:3675588)

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Originally Posted by broadrun96

Think they have all four here at a road Atlanta this week. I wouldn't be surprised to see a few LMP3s in their team, Dayson in the 12 has already said he looks forward to a season in the LMP3 car and probably has the funds to buy a chassis or two. His teammate, Hanratty will benefit from this and would not be surprised to see them in a WSC P car in the future.

Wouldn't be surprised to see a BAR1 liveried LMP3 car next season as well. If they find a driver, or the boss wants to run in the top class, of course.

Hanratty and Dayson are also on the main grid for Petit. Hanratty in the #88 Starworks PC and a late entry of the #7 Starworks PC for Dayson with the other 2 drivers yet to be named.

L.P.

MoMedic9019 · 28 Sep 2016, 09:34 (Ref:3675665)

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Originally Posted by broadrun96

Wouldn't be surprised to see a BAR1 liveried LMP3 car next season as well. If they find a driver, or the boss wants to run in the top class, of course.

I wouldn't be either, seeing as, IIRC, they've already bought a chassis.

Coach Ep · 29 Sep 2016, 14:37 (Ref:3675942)

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Originally Posted by Matt

For Ed to race on the non-NAEC weekends?

Why not full time? He can use some (a lot in fact) more track time and the P3 is closer to the P2. I doubt it'll compromise his efforts in the main series too much but then again I'm sure about his abilities to adapt to 2 different cars on the same weekend.

**joeb** · 29 Sep 2016, 17:16 (Ref:3675971)

I got a chance to see the ESM Ligiers P3 car this morning followed by the Riley. Wow that is a stark contrast.

The ligier had 2 seats in it.

**FIRE** · 29 Sep 2016, 17:36 (Ref:3675974)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

**FIRE** · 29 Sep 2016, 17:38 (Ref:3675975)

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Originally Posted by joeb

I got a chance to see the ESM Ligiers P3 car this morning followed by the Riley. Wow that is a stark contrast.

The ligier had 2 seats in it.

Do you have more detail photos?

**joeb** · 29 Sep 2016, 21:21 (Ref:3676011)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

Do you have more detail photos?

A few

And avert your eyes:

FormulaFox · 29 Sep 2016, 22:59 (Ref:3676024)

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Originally Posted by joeb

And avert your eyes:

While I think it's highly unlikely given the competition they have for this one, I can't be the only one who would get a kick out of it if the extra time Riley was taking on this car's development resulted in a repeat of what happened in DP - the car that was by far the ugliest being the one that performs the best.

**joeb** · 5 Oct 2016, 13:39 (Ref:3677502)

ACO isn't happy with the 24 hour series allowing P3.

http://sportscar365.com/gt/24hseries...-proto-series/

It seems ACO wants a fee to be paid to them. I would understand that in a way, but can't anybody buy a P3 and run it where they want? There are cars running stateside in private hands and the ACO isn't complaining about that so really I don't see the difference.

**FIRE** · 5 Oct 2016, 13:41 (Ref:3677504)

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2016/1...to-series.html

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“The ACO denies having granted to CREVENTIC the LMP3 brand, as well as LMP3 technical regulations, which are its exclusive property.

I didn't know the latter.

EDIT You beat me joeb.

**FIRE** · 5 Oct 2016, 13:45 (Ref:3677508)

I can understand ACO owns the "LMP3" name but I find it hard to believe they can forbid an organizer to run a class for these cars or an owner to race these cars in a series.

Coach Ep · 5 Oct 2016, 13:47 (Ref:3677514)

They can't - but they can 'award' that team/driver with a no-entry for the ELMS/Le Mans support race...

mariantic · 5 Oct 2016, 13:55 (Ref:3677519)

Infinity Race Engineering withdraw Adess from AsLMS

http://www.endurance-info.com/fr/inf...revenir-en-gt/

car "like a rough diamond"

"customers are not ready to jump into a car that needed development"

Mariantic

**FIRE** · 5 Oct 2016, 14:17 (Ref:3677531)

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Originally Posted by Coach Ep

They can't - but they can 'award' that team/driver with a no-entry for the ELMS/Le Mans support race...

True ACO has the power to do that.

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