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Old 22 Sep 2017, 14:26 (Ref:3769261)   #1
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o- FIA Formula 2: 40, 40, 40, 30, 20, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3
o- IndyCar: 40, 30, 20, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
o- FIA European F3: 30, 25, 20, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
o- FIA Formula E: 30, 25, 20, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
o- GP3: 25, 20, 15, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
o- Formula V8 3.5: 20, 15, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
o- Super Formula: 20, 15, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1
o- Indy Lights: 15, 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
o- FIA F4: 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1

o- FIA WEC LMP1: 30, 24, 20, 16, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
o- FIA WEC LMP2: 20, 16, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
o- Super GT: 15, 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
o- Asian/European LMS Prototype: 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
o- FIA WEC GTE: 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
o- IMSA GTLM: 10, 8, 6, 4, 2

o- FIA WTCC: 15, 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
o- DTM: 15, 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
o- Australian Supercars: 13, 11, 9, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1

o- NASCAR Cup: 15, 12, 10, 7, 5, 3, 2, 1
o- NASCAR Xfinity, Trucks: 10, 7, 5, 3, 1
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Old 22 Sep 2017, 14:33 (Ref:3769263)   #2
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Which means:

o- A FIA F3 champion gets as many points as a FIA WEC LMP1 champion.
o- A FIA F3 5th place finisher gets as many points as an IndyCar 5th place finisher.
o- A FIA F4 runner-up gets as many points as a FIA WEC GTE champion.
o- A FIA F4 3rd place finisher gets as many points as a DTM 4th place finisher.
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Old 22 Sep 2017, 14:47 (Ref:3769271)   #3
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Glad that they rate Indycar highly
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Old 22 Sep 2017, 16:46 (Ref:3769292)   #4
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loon should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridloon should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
how on earth can Super Formula the worlds fastest sub formula 1 championship be rated lower than GP3?
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Rating GP3 more highly than Super Formula seems wrong. SF cars are the fastest single seaters outside F1.
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Old 22 Sep 2017, 16:47 (Ref:3769294)   #6
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Old 22 Sep 2017, 17:04 (Ref:3769299)   #7
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Also:

o- The Indy Lights champion gets more points than the IndyCar 4th finisher.
o- The FIA F3 champion gets more points than the FIA F2 5th finisher.
o- The FIA F4 champion gets more points than the FIA F2 6th finisher.
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Old 22 Sep 2017, 17:53 (Ref:3769315)   #8
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As you are accumulating points over seasons then the F2 or Indycar driver will be up there with enough points, but it gives the opportunity for those winning in the lower ladder series to get a Superlicence quickly.

Not that I'd have this system at all, but as we've got it, I think it is there or thereabouts.
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Old 22 Sep 2017, 18:15 (Ref:3769323)   #9
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loon should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridloon should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
its all about forcing wealthy young drivers into the official FIA series so their wealth can readily identified by the F1 teams and then have it extracted from them!!
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Old 22 Sep 2017, 20:09 (Ref:3769335)   #10
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Rating GP3 more highly than Super Formula seems wrong. SF cars are the fastest single seaters outside F1.
I think that it might be the diversity of drivers in the series as well as the speed of the cars

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its all about forcing wealthy young drivers into the official FIA series so their wealth can readily identified by the F1 teams and then have it extracted from them!!
...The FIA have made it too much towards racing in high cost championships. It should not be like this. Why don't we just return to a time before points or just say no U18 and leave it at that?
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wolfhound should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridwolfhound should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridwolfhound should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridwolfhound should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
No mention of DPi and where do the non WEC LMP2 series fit in?
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Old 22 Sep 2017, 21:38 (Ref:3769351)   #13
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No mention of DPi and where do the non WEC LMP2 series fit in?
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It's a joke.
Just an FIA exercise to exert how important their championships are in the scheme of racing.

If the series were selected on merit, the F1 world champion should be way down the list, only has to compete with a single team mate every week!
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Yes weird seeing GP3 higher than Super Formula. That's just bizarre
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Interesting that a Supercar pilot can win the series 3 years in a row & still not be eligible...
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Interesting that a Supercar pilot can win the series 3 years in a row & still not be eligible...
But would you expect them to go Supercars to F1 directly? Seems like a HUGE change in everything there. I'd say winning three on the trot and a decent season in F2/3/etc is a good showing but Supercars to F1 is a stretch. And I enjoy them and would say the same for any GT or tintop series. And having the SF driver earn 2/3 of Formula E is crazy, are there any SF drivers winning who are really that bad a pilot? I understand it behind F2, the ban on champs returning there is good on paper and terrible in reality so you earn fewer points racing after you're a champ to stay sharp. That's bizzare
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it gives the opportunity for those winning in the lower ladder series to get a Superlicence quickly
Yes, and I disagree with that. F1 drivers should be experienced and successful in junior formula racing.

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I think that F1 should forbid under-21 drivers.
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But would you expect them to go Supercars to F1 directly? Seems like a HUGE change in everything there. I'd say winning three on the trot and a decent season in F2/3/etc is a good showing but Supercars to F1 is a stretch. And I enjoy them and would say the same for any GT or tintop series. And having the SF driver earn 2/3 of Formula E is crazy, are there any SF drivers winning who are really that bad a pilot? I understand it behind F2, the ban on champs returning there is good on paper and terrible in reality so you earn fewer points racing after you're a champ to stay sharp. That's bizzare
There has only been one pilot eligible down here, Jamie Whincup, and he started in Formula Ford..

It is just hard to see the point of the SuperLicence system if you overcome almost impossible odds to win what you need and still miss...
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There has only been one pilot eligible down here, Jamie Whincup, and he started in Formula Ford..
Sorry GTRMagic, but there is only one guy down there and he is much better suited to F1 than JW, and really is sad to see him not make it to F1. A real talent that ran out of money/oppotunity and had to head back home to NZ. Richie Stanaway. If you've followed his career so far, which included Formula Renault 3.5, GP3 and GP2, you'd see that Stanaway is a much better talent for F1 than Whincup is/was. A shame to not see Stanaway make it all the way to F1.
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Sorry GTRMagic, but there is only one guy down there and he is much better suited to F1 than JW, and really is sad to see him not make it to F1. A real talent that ran out of money/oppotunity and had to head back home to NZ. Richie Stanaway. If you've followed his career so far, which included Formula Renault 3.5, GP3 and GP2, you'd see that Stanaway is a much better talent for F1 than Whincup is/was. A shame to not see Stanaway make it all the way to F1.
That wasn't the eligibility criteria though. 3 Supercar titles in 3 years got Mr Whincup to 39 points. And despite the best of intentions, he still wouldn't qualify even if he wanted to!
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