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View Poll Results: Who will drive #88 in 2022?
Andre Heimgartner 0 0%
Angelo Mouzouris 0 0%
Anton de Pasquale 0 0%
Broc Feeney 4 14.29%
Brodie Kostecki 7 25.00%
Bryce Fullwood 0 0%
Cameron Waters 1 3.57%
Chaz Mostert 2 7.14%
Craig Lowndes “I’m Baaaaack” 0 0%
Declan Fraser 0 0%
Earl Bamber 1 3.57%
Garth Tander 1 3.57%
Jack Smith 0 0%
James Courtney 0 0%
Jamie Whincup (“I’m not SMURFIN leaving”) 0 0%
Jayden Ojeda 0 0%
Jordan Boys 1 3.57%
Jordan Cox 0 0%
Jordan Taylor 0 0%
Marcos Ambrose 1 3.57%
Mark Winterbottom 0 0%
Nash Morris 0 0%
Nick Percat 1 3.57%
Reef McCarthy 0 0%
Renee Gracie 1 3.57%
Richie Stanaway 0 0%
Rick Kelly 1 3.57%
Roland Dane 1 3.57%
Scott Pye 0 0%
Sebastian Bourdais 0 0%
Shane van Gisbergen (drive both, why not?) 1 3.57%
Simona de Silvestro 0 0%
Thomas Randle 1 3.57%
Todd Hazelwood 3 10.71%
Tyler Everingham 0 0%
Will Brown 0 0%
Will Davison 0 0%
Will Power 1 3.57%
Zane Goddard 0 0%
Anybody else... (please share who) 1 3.57%
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Old 22 Apr 2021, 19:32 (Ref:4047378)   #16
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A stepback? Don't think so. Depends on what are your priorities.
He is factory driver und is likely one of the biggest candidates for the Porsche LMDh-Program in FIA WEC and IMSA. Supercars is only a national series...
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Old 22 Apr 2021, 19:50 (Ref:4047385)   #17
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A stepback? Don't think so. Depends on what are your priorities.
A factory Porsche driver on the cusp of being one of their lead drivers for their return to top level Sportscar racing in 2023, how is coming back to Australia to race tin tops NOT a step back.

Given all the effort he’s put in to get where he is, I don’t see why he’d come back here now given Porsches plans for the next few years.
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Supercars will be a big stepback to his Porsche-Deal. Unlikly.
Haven't Porsche had a cleanout of contracted drivers and teams and programs in recent years? They do have an embarrassment of riches in the remaining driver pool
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Old 23 Apr 2021, 08:56 (Ref:4047454)   #19
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He is factory driver und is likely one of the biggest candidates for the Porsche LMDh-Program in FIA WEC and IMSA. Supercars is only a national series...
Yes, yes, of course you're right, I just got trapped in looking at it from my perspective - for me WEC or IMSA is nowehere near as exciting as Supercars. But a factory deal is of course a big thing for him. Nevertheless, I believe many Aussie/Kiwi drivers would choose Supercars over GT racing if the latter wouldn't involve big factory deals and programs. We've seen Stanaway for instance who was keen to switch to Supercars from his GT programme. SVG himself said he wouldn't pursue GT career overseas.
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Old 23 Apr 2021, 10:47 (Ref:4047485)   #20
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Supercars will be a big stepback to his Porsche-Deal. Unlikly.

Indeed.

His priority is Porsche and they’re about to go back to prototypes again. The odds are in his favour of getting a seat even if Porsche has a full roster of drivers on their books. He’s young fast and highly thought of within the company.

Anyone on the Porsche roster atm wouldn’t want to be going anywhere in the next couple of years in the hope of getting a LMdH seat unless they get dropped by the company. Nick Tandy is the exception to that rule but looks like he wants to do NASCAR so understand him going the GM path via the Corvette programme. He’s won Le Mans with Porsche so ticked that box.

Aussies especially Supercar fans have to realise that Supercars aren’t the be all and end all of motorsport. Take the blinkers off there’s so much more out there to discover and enjoy.
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Old 23 Apr 2021, 11:30 (Ref:4047495)   #21
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Aussies especially Supercar fans have to realise that Supercars aren’t the be all and end all of motorsport. Take the blinkers off there’s so much more out there to discover and enjoy.
Of course there is a world outside Supercars, motorsport is so broad that everyone may find something for them.
But whether you like it or not, Supercars is a very celebrated championship and it is for a reason. It's not the case of taking blinkers off, people just enjoy it. And there are many Supercars enthusiasts from outside Australia or New Zealand (I'm one of them) and for me this is by far the best touring car championship in the world.
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Old 23 Apr 2021, 21:25 (Ref:4047605)   #22
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But whether you like it or not, Supercars is a very celebrated championship and it is for a reason.
I'd say "was" a very celebrated championship, it is a fairly stale and samey category of comparatively minor interest these days... I can't say I particularly care who wins or if I miss the races.

The Adelaide 500 is gone and the other marquee events are likely to gradually drop off the calendar too.

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Old 23 Apr 2021, 21:38 (Ref:4047606)   #23
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I'd say "was" a very celebrated championship, it is a fairly stale and samey category of comparatively minor interest these days... I can't say I particularly care who wins or if I miss the races.

The Adelaide 500 is gone and the other marquee events are likely to gradually drop off the calendar too.
Motorsport in general is in decline so everyone loses audience, that's a sad fact.
You may not care but you're not the majority who does.
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Old 23 Apr 2021, 21:54 (Ref:4047607)   #24
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Motorsport in general is in decline so everyone loses audience, that's a sad fact.
You may not care but you're not the majority who does.
I used to care, it used to be great with Ambrose and SBR and so on. But it's just a minor interest these days, the technical development in Formula One with the nitty gritty of the aerodynamics and power units is a lot more interesting.

Doesn't it bother you that V8 Supercar teams used to build their own cars, each with different designs and based on real Ford Falcons and real Holden Commodores, but now they just assemble kits from Pace Innovations, they are not allowed to have more power than anyone else, etcetera et al?

All those great stories -- Prodrive Windsor engines arriving on a palette from England, being put in the car and blowing up; 888's Windsor engines likewise arriving on a palette from France^ and also blowing up; 888's racey lightweight suspension components giving up on Mr Radisich who has to trundle back to the pits on three functional corners... All that layer of interest is all gone.

^ Infuriatingly, I can't remember the name of the engine builder, it was one of the well-known French racing engine tuners, popular in Formula 3 and Super Touring. As we know, 888 then adopted SBR Windsor motors for the 2005 season onwards.

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Formula Mercedes aka F1, is as boring as bat pooh these days.

The drivers are all controlled puppets, can’t say anything that is not politically correct or might cause sponsor backlash.

We prattle on about something that gives us a .0003 second gain a lap but has cost big $$$ to develop and makes no difference to racing.

The paying punter just wants to see some hardcore racing, sideways out of a corner, side by side racing, bit of banging wheels, drivers having an opinion, etc.
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Formula Mercedes aka F1, is as boring as bat pooh these days.

The drivers are all controlled puppets, can’t say anything that is not politically correct or might cause sponsor backlash.

We prattle on about something that gives us a .0003 second gain a lap but has cost big $$$ to develop and makes no difference to racing.

The paying punter just wants to see some hardcore racing, sideways out of a corner, side by side racing, bit of banging wheels, drivers having an opinion, etc.
The first 2 F1 Grand Prix this year have been way more exciting than anything served up by Supercars for the past couple of years.
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Old 24 Apr 2021, 08:40 (Ref:4047631)   #28
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I used to care, it used to be great with Ambrose and SBR and so on. But it's just a minor interest these days, the technical development in Formula One with the nitty gritty of the aerodynamics and power units is a lot more interesting.

Doesn't it bother you that V8 Supercar teams used to build their own cars, each with different designs and based on real Ford Falcons and real Holden Commodores, but now they just assemble kits from Pace Innovations, they are not allowed to have more power than anyone else, etcetera et al?

All those great stories -- Prodrive Windsor engines arriving on a palette from England, being put in the car and blowing up; 888's Windsor engines likewise arriving on a palette from France^ and also blowing up; 888's racey lightweight suspension components giving up on Mr Radisich who has to trundle back to the pits on three functional corners... All that layer of interest is all gone.

^ Infuriatingly, I can't remember the name of the engine builder, it was one of the well-known French racing engine tuners, popular in Formula 3 and Super Touring. As we know, 888 then adopted SBR Windsor motors for the 2005 season onwards.
I understand you because everyone may be interested in something else and that's perfectly fine. For me the thing of building cars is... well, a bit sad maybe but watching races I don't care that much about it. Manufacturers are less and less willing to put tonnes of money into motorsport, even Formula E cars (which is a borefest for me) have all the same cars.
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The absolute best racing took place when there was not a huge amount of money around and certainly no manufacturers either, it was call sports sedans and the cars were engineering marvels not constrained by unnecessary rules. Free thinking was allowed and even encouraged and I was lucky enough to have seen it all.

It will never happen again for a whole lot of reasons including the dumb idea that tight restrictive rules save money. I think SC has proven that idea wrong in capital letters. Tight rules result in tiny incremental development steps for large chunks of money. Anyone who complains about the cost of motor racing should go and buy a big yacht and race that, they will soon change their tune very quickly. I have no time for those who complain about the cost of racing at any level, if you can't afford it get out and do something else.
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Wonder if Joey Mawson would be considered, he seems to be doing OK against Randle and Golding, etc.
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