Bell's Banter 2021 - Page 134

Lancsbreaker · 25 Dec 2021, 20:53 (Ref:4091311)

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Originally Posted by Paul D

Happy Christmas one & all!

Hope you all have a relaxing festive period while thoughts turn to next year's racing... Covid permitting!

SWMBO has been on Facetime with family in NZ - already Christmas day there and it's clear blue skies and hot! Doesn't seem right somehow does it? We're all so used to freezing our nuts off at this time of year, I'm not sure if it would feel like Christmas at all if it was hot & sunny.

Not that I'm at all envious, you understand!

From the years when we spent Xmas in Tenerife, I can assure you that a little warmth and sunshine is perfectly compaible with a pleasant Xmas..... mind you this is the first stone-cold sober Xmas I've seen in many a year, thanks to the meds, so my recollection may be a little skewed

Merry Xmas, my friend, anyway!

bauble · 27 Dec 2021, 00:03 (Ref:4091392)

I survived!

Lancsbreaker · 27 Dec 2021, 13:10 (Ref:4091432)

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Originally Posted by bauble

I survived!

Praise the lord and pass the ammunition - or alternativelt the answers to the quiz

Gerard C · 27 Dec 2021, 19:19 (Ref:4091475)

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Originally Posted by Lancsbreaker

Praise the lord and pass the ammunition - or alternativelt the answers to the quiz

Another good one Rich!

Lancsbreaker · 28 Dec 2021, 11:48 (Ref:4091535)

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Originally Posted by Gerard C

Another good one Rich!

I blame all typos on the new laptop I have which has a slightly re-arranged keyboard layout meaning things aren't quite where my ageing fingers are used to finding them........

That and general incompetence, of course.......used to be major incompetence but he's been promoted.......

andy97 · 28 Dec 2021, 15:34 (Ref:4091556)

Dave Beecroft is promoting a Club 24 hour race for under 2 litre cars in Sept 2022.

Gerard et al, thought you might be interested in this:
https://club24hour.co.uk/classes-and-cars

Not really historic, for which I apologise, but there is a class for Mk1 MX5s and I know that Gerard and MGDavid both have race examples of the marque so thought I would post in the Bell’s Banter thread.
Gerard, maybe you could get some of your French MX5 mates to come across and join in?
Anglesey is a fantastic circuit and well worth the trip.

midgetman · 28 Dec 2021, 15:41 (Ref:4091557)

I'll be honest, it looks quite an event. Dave Beecroft has the clout to get it working if anyone can.

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Gerard C · 28 Dec 2021, 15:48 (Ref:4091558)

Thanks a lot Andy, looks nice and historic. It fills the gap we have between 11 and 30 September. Any idea about teh entry fee and, may be more important, refueling conditions?
I know one MX team has already entered a C1 at Silverstone.

andy97 · 28 Dec 2021, 15:54 (Ref:4091559)

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Originally Posted by Gerard C

Thanks a lot Andy, looks nice and historic. It fills the gap we have between 11 and 30 September. Any idea about teh entry fee and, may be more important, refueling conditions?
I know one MX team has already entered a C1 at Silverstone.

I don’t know any details yet, Gerard, sorry.
They have a club24 Facebook page so it may be worth keeping an eye on that.

Gerard C · 28 Dec 2021, 17:23 (Ref:4091570)

Re the MX5's, the good point is that we share almost the same tech regulation. And the travel from Paris for instance is not any longer than to Paul Ricard. Brilliant idea you got, thanks again.

andy97 · 28 Dec 2021, 18:42 (Ref:4091576)

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Originally Posted by Gerard C

Re the MX5's, the good point is that we share almost the same tech regulation. And the travel from Paris for instance is not any longer than to Paul Ricard. Brilliant idea you got, thanks again.

Anglesey is well worth the trip, Gerard, the best circuit in the country imho and the scenery is spectacular with the sea next door and mountains in the distance.

I think it was Dave Beecroft that had the brilliant idea, not me! It would be good if you could get a French MX5 team or two to take part.

Lancsbreaker · 29 Dec 2021, 00:04 (Ref:4091612)

Agree its a great circuit, as you know, Andy. If anyone wants an extra driver I'd be interested......assuming I renew my licence

Gerard C · 29 Dec 2021, 10:23 (Ref:4091646)

I remember the pictures of Anglesey posted here, no doubt its a great place. Just hope its not to demanding on the brakes because the rear pads replacement is a nightmare! If I say to Richard its the same system used by Alfa (rear Alfettas and front AlfaSud), with a small screw to push the piston back in the caliper he will know…

Lancsbreaker · 29 Dec 2021, 18:02 (Ref:4091687)

Oh I do understand

I don't consider it a particularly hard-on-the-brakes circuit, although it depends which layout. Coastal is easier on the brakes with only one really big stop at Rocket. If using the international layout there is also a long straight uphill to an open hairpin and the matching downhill run to the slightly over-90 lefthander onto the pit straight, both of which need a fairly big stop.

Gerard C · 29 Dec 2021, 18:45 (Ref:4091693)

I remember asking to a Capri mechanic how they managed to change presto the rear brake shoes during the long term races in the eighties. Very simple he said, just a need a good pair of pliers to tie a knot in the rear brake line!

andy97 · 30 Dec 2021, 07:27 (Ref:4091744)

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Originally Posted by Lancsbreaker

I don't consider it a particularly hard-on-the-brakes circuit, although it depends which layout. Coastal is easier on the brakes with only one really big stop at Rocket. If using the international layout there is also a long straight uphill to an open hairpin and the matching downhill run to the slightly over-90 lefthander onto the pit straight, both of which need a fairly big stop.

Agree with all of that. Not sure which circuit configuration they are planning on using but would expect it to be the international circuit to maximise grid capacity. The saving grace, I suppose, is that there are long straights between braking points to allow cooling.
I don’t remember hearing of braking problems in the 12 hour (2 x 6 hour) Race of Remembrance race weekend and many of the participants in that would have been in similar types of cars to those planned for this event.

Jeremy Hall · 30 Dec 2021, 10:24 (Ref:4091755)

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Originally Posted by Gerard C

I remember asking to a Capri mechanic how they managed to change presto the rear brake shoes during the long term races in the eighties. Very simple he said, just a need a good pair of pliers to tie a knot in the rear brake line!

IIRC we put some really hard shoes in and changed the drums in the Willhire.
Check Gerard

Gerard C · 30 Dec 2021, 16:46 (Ref:4091799)

Thank you very much Jeremy! The best compound we found so far is made by Carbotech and we send the shoes to Cambridge Motorsport (previously to Mosa Freins in Belgium) for re-lining. They have a huge knowledge and a wide range of racing shoes avalaible on the shelf. Sadly, nobody wants to bother with this kind of stuff in France…

**Peter Mallett** · 30 Dec 2021, 17:00 (Ref:4091801)

It's interesting that in the last couple of years, the need for better/longer lasting brake pads has become apparent. I suppose it results from better racing surfaces and gripper tyres (I include Dunlop's finest).

Gerard C · 31 Dec 2021, 06:59 (Ref:4091882)

Quite right. It seems that since the use of asbestos is illegal we see a wider offer of brake pads depending on use and working temp. Brake fluids are better too imo.

I remember when our 2002 TI's have been totally outdated by the 2000 GTV's when they arrived in Grp1. The Bimmer brakes - discs/drums- did not last long on any track.

**Peter Mallett** · 31 Dec 2021, 08:12 (Ref:4091885)

It's wind down day for 2021. I'll set up next year's thread shortly. Now we have Bentley it will be a quiet New Year's eve, or as quiet as Bentley permits. Got a nice rib roast and a bottle of St. Emilion to consume this evening before settling down with Jules Holland.

Looking forward to a peaceful, pandemic free new year. No racing plans as yet but I do have my licence.

So, if I don't get back on line today, I take this opportunity to wish all our mates on here a very Happy New Year.

gary396 · 31 Dec 2021, 08:22 (Ref:4091886)

Enjoy your day Peter and all the best for the New Year to all Historic Tenthers (well, all Tenthers I suppose...).

Looking forward to watching some more racing in 2022!

E.B · 31 Dec 2021, 08:23 (Ref:4091887)

Cheers Peter. Down here we are now less than 5 hours from 2022 breaking. Im about to go a choose a bottle of red and having a quiet one at home with a couple of friends. I have a city view from home so watching the fireworks display is the nearest to excitement planned at my end. No wish to go and mingle with the great unwashed atm.

Wishing all on here a Very Healthy Happy and Safe 2022. Catch you on the other side!

The Fat Clerk · 31 Dec 2021, 10:16 (Ref:4091894)

Happy New Year to one and all.
Let's hope the new one is better than 2021.
I've now got a couple of weeks rest, we had our last Trackday yesterday and the first one of 2022 isn't until the 22nd.
Aside from Covid (which luckily I still haven't had) there's been a few unpleasant experiences this year.
I was the MSUK Steward @ Darley Moor over Easter when a Karter died after crashing, the Course Controller @ Curborough when a driver died after having an accident @ the Mole Hill & running a bike Trackday @ Mallory when a young lad came off exiting Gerards & is now paralysed from the chest down.
Highlights were being the Clerk for all the VSCC race meetings.

**chunterer** · 31 Dec 2021, 10:18 (Ref:4091895)

Sharing the same sentiments with you all. Quiet one for me, will keep my mother company this evening as it's also the date Dad died in 2014.

Here's to a fab new year with lots doing!! ????

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