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That's just a lame excuse that nobody should fall for. How many times did we hear something similar in the McLaren years? I'm stunned people just buy this.
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i remain optimistic about the RB-Honda partnership mainly because i think it is a risk worth taking.
Renault apparently are looking at a redesign for next year's engine and unless they nail it right out of the box (unlikely given their recent history and spending desires) its not like they were going to deliver a world championship winning engine anyways (my opinion). if anything they are redesigning to make an engine that suits their works team and not one for their customers. imo all RB have sacrificed is a couple of race wins (wins that most likely would only come from unusual races or on a limited amount of tracks where the engine plays less of a role) for a bespoke engine from a major manufacturer. time will tell of course, but despite Honda's past issues, moving forward this, imo, still gives them a better chance at a title then staying with Renault. |
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The other side of the story is that RBR have a similar attitude to their "selected drivers". They have (publicly anyway) made it pretty clear that their selected No1 is Max and that means it would be pretty unlikely that Danny would have been a championship contender at RBR. I think EB (and others) has it pretty right with the opinion that STR are runnning what is predominantly a test and development program for next year's Honda RBR campaign. As I recall STR have not had a PU related mechanical failiure in the second half of the season during a race. The penaly's they have taken have been for testing failures or for the substitution of parts either to advance performance or correct driveabilty problems apparent with new assemblies. The end result of the programe should be a more competitive RBR next season which is great for F1. I just hope that Renault can get their act together as well. |
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Helmut Marko says that is the plan in this statement to Autosport.
"Toro Rosso are sacrificing their season for next year. It's part of our concept that we have with Honda." "The figures are already ahead of Renault." |
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Are there any actual commercial partners on the STR car this season who might not exactly enjoy torching their season for the mother ship's future?
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I see that Dr Marko is saying that Honda could make Verstappen the youngest World Champion (Autosport article here)
So, laying the ground work nice and early so that if it doesn't happen, Red Bull can do their usual and blame the lack of success on their engine supplier! |
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This reeks of rank hypocrisy from Horner:
"Has regret also contributed to Ricciardo’s current slump? That question was put to Horner. “Only Daniel can answer that,” he said. “There’s no point broaching it with him. The decision was made and he’s comfortable with it. He’s driving a competitive car that’s taken pole position so you can see the differential between where this part [the front] of the grid is and where this part [Renault] is two laps behind.” https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/o...son-discontent Deserves a swift kick in the ... |
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Bet Ricciardo can’t wait to get out of there. His car may not be as good, but the reliability should be miles better
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Despite suggesting Gasly compete in the last two DR has himself committed to the last two races, which is the right the thing to do. He's not a quitter and if he had decided not to see the season out with RBR, I think that decision will have followed him around. So good on him.
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I think it's pretty silly to think he would ever not do those last two races. Praising him for not doing something monumentally stupid like not driving races he's been contracted for seems a bit unnecessary.
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I think the temptation was there, but he’s obviously hoping things will go right for him in the last two GPs
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He was the one who suggested Gasly compete in the final two races. The fact he suggested it, strongly suggests it's not a very pleasant atmosphere at RBR and therefore he was clearly tempted to pack it in but decided not to. I don't see "praise" as being unnecessary.
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There is a LOT of talk in all the media about how happy RBR, Red Bull, Mr Newey, Mobil and anyone else in the RBR program are with working with Honda for next season.
It seems like a HUGE amount of hype for an engine maker who so far havent produced anything like a regular top 10 finishing engine... Leap of faith? |
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