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View Poll Results: Will France be missed for 2004
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Old 21 Nov 2003, 19:55 (Ref:790990)   #1
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French Grand Prix cancelled

Just read on BBC teletext that the French Grand Prix has been cancelled due to lack of funds! :confused:
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Old 21 Nov 2003, 19:58 (Ref:790993)   #2
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Sorry guys, had to post it. sorry the details are a bit scetchy but i am on my way out of work, we shall see what pans out in the next couple of days.
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Old 21 Nov 2003, 20:04 (Ref:790994)   #3
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noooooooooooooooooo!
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Old 21 Nov 2003, 20:08 (Ref:790997)   #4
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man it dont look good... BBC reports
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Old 21 Nov 2003, 20:08 (Ref:790998)   #5
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It says MAY be cancelled, its not deffo yet!
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Old 21 Nov 2003, 20:10 (Ref:790999)   #6
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still a doubt is not a good thing...
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Old 21 Nov 2003, 20:20 (Ref:791006)   #7
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Old 21 Nov 2003, 20:26 (Ref:791011)   #8
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Considering how much significance France has in the past, present and future of F1, it would be amazing for them to not have a race, even for just 1 year. Then again, Magny-Cours has produced few exciting races, and I'm not keen on the changed layout near the pits as it's removed a challenging corner and potential overtaking spot. Having Belgium back and Canada saved are more important than this, in my view.
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Old 21 Nov 2003, 20:26 (Ref:791012)   #9
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Considering how much significance France has in the past, present and future of F1, it would be amazing for them to not have a race, even for just 1 year. Then again, Magny-Cours has produced few exciting races, and I'm not keen on the changed layout near the pits as it's removed a challenging corner and potential overtaking spot. Having Belgium back and Canada saved are more important than this, in my view.
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Old 21 Nov 2003, 20:30 (Ref:791015)   #10
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YES!
The only way i can agree with this point is because the race is French

But come on theres good races that go on at this track. Plus im good at it on F1 Challenge
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Old 21 Nov 2003, 20:33 (Ref:791018)   #11
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France was the original grand prix and I think it would be very strange if this race didn't take place. In 2006 it will be 100 years of a grand prix, so with that just 3 years off, it should be sorted.

Wasn't there some problems a few years back and the race dropped for a while.
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Old 21 Nov 2003, 20:33 (Ref:791019)   #12
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The axing of the Magny-Cours race looks suspiciously to me like a plot from a certain Mr Bernard Ecclestone. Guess what I'm thinking?

Hint: Paul Ricard

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Old 21 Nov 2003, 20:36 (Ref:791023)   #13
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More on this.

ttp://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns12191.html

More here, speculating that Le Mans could be a future GP venue and add another prestigous venue to the calendar.

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns12190.html
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Old 21 Nov 2003, 21:04 (Ref:791031)   #14
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Sorry, I wasn't aware about the spectator and access problems that Paul Ricard faces that were pointed out in that article.

The reason I would prefer the race to go to Paul Ricard instead of Le Mans is that Ricard is a much faster/more flowing/more exciting/better circuit than the Bugatti. Bugatti would just be like the Hungaroring - mickey-mouse and impossible to pass at, and not pleasurable for either drivers or fans.

Of course that would all change if the race was held on the full Sarthe circuit... Why the FIA have such a problem with F1 running on longer circuits I don't know, but I sure wish they would change their philosophy on them, and soon...

Both have their plus sides: Ricard has Ecclestone's blessing and is one of the most modern tracks in the world; Le Mans has the history and the name.

There's no doubt that there needs to be a French GP on the calender, but any replacement for Magny-Cours should be thought about carefully.

Here's the three track maps, so you can make up your own mind:

Paul Ricard


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Le Mans Sarthe


BTW, sorry about the Paul Ricard image being cut in half, don't know why that's happening.

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Old 21 Nov 2003, 21:30 (Ref:791047)   #15
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Tell Bernie to tear up that nauseating multi-colored asphalt around his track and build a few grandstands before he does anything. Have the decency to make Paul Ricard look like a proper Formula 1 venue before he moves the race there. Keep the race in Magny-Cours or move it to Le Mans for a year, then unveil Paul Ricard in '05.
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Old 21 Nov 2003, 23:27 (Ref:791136)   #16
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Both Paul Ricard and Magny Cours are horribly flat circuits.
What about Dijon?
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Old 21 Nov 2003, 23:41 (Ref:791140)   #17
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Canada, Belguim, Austria, Brazil, France ... this is just getting ridiculous...
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Old 21 Nov 2003, 23:47 (Ref:791142)   #18
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What about Dijon?
Too short.
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Old 22 Nov 2003, 02:15 (Ref:791175)   #19
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Except . . . . . .

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France was the original grand prix and I think it would be very strange if this race didn't take place. In 2006 it will be 100 years of a grand prix, so with that just 3 years off, it should be sorted.

Wasn't there some problems a few years back and the race dropped for a while.
Yes, it happened twice. Around 1914-1918 and 1939-194?.
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Old 22 Nov 2003, 04:46 (Ref:791212)   #20
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Now what exactly are (or did) the Canadian organizers going to pay for? With the French GP (an anti-tobacco GP) being canceled there won't be more anti-tobacco Gps than usual, also there won't be more than 17 races now (that would have been againts the Concorde Agreement) so what do the Canadians have to compensate with that 30mil?
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Old 22 Nov 2003, 05:22 (Ref:791219)   #21
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Take it back to Paul Ricard as it has always being a better circut than Magny Cours.
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Old 22 Nov 2003, 07:28 (Ref:791252)   #22
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The full Le Mans circuit would be good but isn't there now a limit on the length of circuits used for Grands Prix?
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Old 22 Nov 2003, 08:35 (Ref:791275)   #23
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I don't know of any maximum limit,but 2-3 miles is the norm. Dijon has been used in the past,and a nicer circuit than Ricard or Magny Cours.GP was last cancelled in 1955,when French government temporarily banned all motor racing after the Le Mans disaster.There have been problems since but they seem to get sorted by July!
Around mid 80s there was a plan to race in the middle of Paris.Maybe this could be revived to celebrate 100yrs of GP racing?
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Old 22 Nov 2003, 11:34 (Ref:791372)   #24
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Can't say I'm devastated by this news, although it means a shorter season possibly.
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Old 22 Nov 2003, 11:44 (Ref:791378)   #25
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Nothing but penny-pinching by a certain B.C. Ecclestone. Although I for one would not be sad to see Magny-Cours dropped.
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