Team Kiwi Racing... coming to a series near you?

[Chappelli]

Is the Phoenix rising or is it just hot air?

David John appears to be determined to keep the TKR brand alive, if not in V8 Supercars perhaps in GT3's, NZV8's.

Will he make it to the track or are their more legal issues still to come?

[Chappelli]

Having just read the full press release I find a couple of things quite odd.....
"It is believed TKR have also had discussions about running either a Porsche GT3 and or NZV8 Touring car in the 2009/10 Championship..."- TKR Press Release (teamkiwiracing.co.nz)
So whoever wrote this press release (and a couple of things would lead me to believe it was Mr John) is unsure on whether TKR has had discussions about running a Porsche or NZV8???? Weird???

and

"Kayne Scott - Kayne asked for the 888 car he was provided in 2008 by TKR."-TKR Press Release (teamkiwiracing.co.nz)
I just thought that's a weird statement.... I can't put my finger on why it feels weird though.

[mountainstar]

I don't see it happening. All the money and goodwill is toast. Also if he wanted to do driver development you need someone that can develop drivers and that isn't there either.

I'm sure Kayne asked for the car probably because it belonged to him all along.

I'll be surprised if there are not legal issues and money issues to sort out. Sounds like there are plenty of creditors.

[Mark Petch]

Originally Posted by mountainstar

I don't see it happening. All the money and goodwill is toast. Also if he wanted to do driver development you need someone that can develop drivers and that isn't there either.

I'm sure Kayne asked for the car probably because it belonged to him all along.

I'll be surprised if there are not legal issues and money issues to sort out. Sounds like there are plenty of creditors.

Mountainstar,
for the record, the Scotts served a Statutory Demand on TKR, 2 weeks ago, for the sum of $380,000.

I should come as no surprise that TKR have filed a notice to defend.

It should also be noted that under this some what draconian legislation, the defendant has to satisfy the court that they are solvent.

Mark Petch.

[mountainstar]

Originally Posted by Mark Petch

Mountainstar,
for the record, the Scotts served a Statutory Demand on TKR, 2 weeks ago, for the sum of $380,000.

I should come as no surprise that TKR have filed a notice to defend.

It should also be noted that under this some what draconian legislation, the defendant has to satisfy the court that they are solvent.

Mark Petch.

Well I hope they get what is owed or at least most of it.

[opinion8head]

Buddy Ebsen....Barnaby Jones..Sleuth
[inncorect spelling, wrong vowel]

[Quote]
For the record, the Scotts served a Statutory Demand on TKR, 2 weeks ago, for the sum of $380,000.

I should come as no surprise that TKR have filed a notice to defend.

It should also be noted that under this some what draconian legislation, the defendant has to satisfy the court that they are solvent.


This was in mid April anyone have any idea how this is progressing?
Considering the "Announcements" on TKRs Site...SOLVENT??

and what of SBR/SBRE,Radisich,IDL etc...?

shake and bake Pstar?...

fold on line

[mountainstar]

[QUOTE=opinion8head;2491408]Buddy Ebsen....Barnaby Jones..Sleuth
[inncorect spelling, wrong vowel]

For the record, the Scotts served a Statutory Demand on TKR, 2 weeks ago, for the sum of $380,000.

I should come as no surprise that TKR have filed a notice to defend.

It should also be noted that under this some what draconian legislation, the defendant has to satisfy the court that they are solvent.


This was in mid April anyone have any idea how this is progressing?
Considering the "Announcements" on TKRs Site...SOLVENT??

and what of SBR/SBRE,Radisich,IDL etc...?

shake and bake Pstar?...

fold on line

wonder where that old Falcon chassis is hidden?

[BlueBlood]

Thats a shame for Kayne and his family, but seriously, who did not see this coming?

Hope he has more luck than those who have tried before him.

[flyingduck]

Well I say a quote that they could go to dirt track racing I have figured a way to get some money for the team Put Mr John in a demo darby and charge people $1000 to race against him I sure there would be happy to put some cash up to try and smash Mr Johns

[mountainstar]

Originally Posted by flyingduck

Well I say a quote that they could go to dirt track racing I have figured a way to get some money for the team Put Mr John in a demo darby and charge people $1000 to race against him I sure there would be happy to put some cash up to try and smash Mr Johns

That would be quite the event.

[Aussie 01]

You guys make me proud to be an Aussie.

The way you attack a person who has given a fair amount of time, money and effort to the sport in your country and is happy to still do so after all the latest cr** should not be treated as you are doing and being allowed to do on this forum.

I know Mark Petch has done his fair share for the sport in NZ but that does not excuse his underminding tactics which are obvious or he would simply keep his mouth shut and not bother posting on this forum.

However what have all you other critics done to support NZ motorsport at the same level that makes you experts and think you have the right to try and talk TKR and or Mr John down all the time like you do.

From what I have seen Mr John has always provided the funds for drivers to get their chance as Jason Richards said in the Sunday News this weekend (or did you all conveniently miss that story where he says) that he and other Kiwi drivers are gratefull for the opportunity they got thanks to David John for starting their V8 Supercar Careers.

[jim beam]

Originally Posted by Aussie 01

You guys make me proud to be an Aussie.

The way you attack a person who has given a fair amount of time, money and effort to the sport in your country and is happy to still do so after all the latest cr** should not be treated as you are doing and being allowed to do on this forum.

I know Mark Petch has done his fair share for the sport in NZ but that does not excuse his underminding tactics which are obvious or he would simply keep his mouth shut and not bother posting on this forum.

However what have all you other critics done to support NZ motorsport at the same level that makes you experts and think you have the right to try and talk TKR and or Mr John down all the time like you do.


From what I have seen Mr John has always provided the funds for drivers to get their chance as Jason Richards said in the Sunday News this weekend (or did you all conveniently miss that story where he says) that he and other Kiwi drivers are gratefull for the opportunity they got thanks to David John for starting their V8 Supercar Careers.

HUH !!! thats pretty rich considering there are a number of topics on here Trashing the promoters of the v8s from you Aussies.

[Chappelli]

Originally Posted by Aussie 01

I know Mark Petch has done his fair share for the sport in NZ but that does not excuse his underminding tactics which are obvious or he would simply keep his mouth shut and not bother posting on this forum.

No more so than David John is allegedlly undermining the financial wellbeing of the Scott Family.

Although morally speaking, what's worse refusing to pay someone the several hundred thousand dollars you owe them or reporting what would appear to be a black and white fact?

Originally Posted by Aussie 01

From what I have seen Mr John has always provided the funds for drivers to get their chance as Jason Richards said in the Sunday News this weekend (or did you all conveniently miss that story where he says) that he and other Kiwi drivers are gratefull for the opportunity they got thanks to David John for starting their V8 Supercar Careers.

Sorry, I did miss it, I don't usually read the Sunday News. I wouldn't have thought it was readily available in Australia, so working on the assumption you read it online (since you're is Australia ) I had a look at SundayNews.co.nz... I did find a story about TKR, but it didn't have the qoute from Jason you mention....if you've got the link to the story you read feel free to post it.

[Mark Petch]

Originally Posted by Aussie 01

You guys make me proud to be an Aussie.

The way you attack a person who has given a fair amount of time, money and effort to the sport in your country and is happy to still do so after all the latest cr** should not be treated as you are doing and being allowed to do on this forum.

I know Mark Petch has done his fair share for the sport in NZ but that does not excuse his underminding tactics which are obvious or he would simply keep his mouth shut and not bother posting on this forum.

However what have all you other critics done to support NZ motorsport at the same level that makes you experts and think you have the right to try and talk TKR and or Mr John down all the time like you do.

From what I have seen Mr John has always provided the funds for drivers to get their chance as Jason Richards said in the Sunday News this weekend (or did you all conveniently miss that story where he says) that he and other Kiwi drivers are gratefull for the opportunity they got thanks to David John for starting their V8 Supercar Careers.

David,
why don't you simply attack me under your own name?

Aussie 01, Numero Uno [Number One in Latin] you certainly have a penchant for the numeral 1.

Mark Petch.

[opinion8head]

Originally Posted by Mark Petch

David,
why don't you simply attack me under your own name?

Aussie 01, Numero Uno [Number One in Latin] you certainly have a penchant for the numeral 1.

Mark Petch.

I read it like a number plate...Australian naughty one,
or maybe...Assigned Officially One..

Numero uno...Looking after number one...
...connotation...or a freudian slip?

[DJJ]

Originally Posted by Aussie 01

You guys make me proud to be an Aussie.

The way you attack a person who has given a fair amount of time, money and effort to the sport in your country and is happy to still do so after all the latest cr** should not be treated as you are doing and being allowed to do on this forum.

I know Mark Petch has done his fair share for the sport in NZ but that does not excuse his underminding tactics which are obvious or he would simply keep his mouth shut and not bother posting on this forum.

However what have all you other critics done to support NZ motorsport at the same level that makes you experts and think you have the right to try and talk TKR and or Mr John down all the time like you do.

From what I have seen Mr John has always provided the funds for drivers to get their chance as Jason Richards said in the Sunday News this weekend (or did you all conveniently miss that story where he says) that he and other Kiwi drivers are gratefull for the opportunity they got thanks to David John for starting their V8 Supercar Careers.

Dear David Paul John

Proud to be an aussie good on ya as NZ hates you.

Your remains in unpaid accounts, money recieved for services you could not provide. You have screwed over many people if you think TKR will live with you....... You are very lost.

I would think anyone with any clue will not want you to take part in any form of NZ competition, funny you mentioned the Mini Challange has Martin set some ground rules for you?

As for the NZ v8s, your mate Mark could awnswer all your questions.

It's very much a laugh having to go back to the same people you have burnt before.

Have fun DJ

[mctshirt]

Originally Posted by Aussie 01

You guys make me proud to be an Aussie.

The way you attack a person who has given a fair amount of time, money and effort to the sport in your country and is happy to still do so after all the latest cr** should not be treated as you are doing and being allowed to do on this forum.

I know Mark Petch has done his fair share for the sport in NZ but that does not excuse his underminding tactics which are obvious or he would simply keep his mouth shut and not bother posting on this forum.

However what have all you other critics done to support NZ motorsport at the same level that makes you experts and think you have the right to try and talk TKR and or Mr John down all the time like you do.

From what I have seen Mr John has always provided the funds for drivers to get their chance as Jason Richards said in the Sunday News this weekend (or did you all conveniently miss that story where he says) that he and other Kiwi drivers are gratefull for the opportunity they got thanks to David John for starting their V8 Supercar Careers.

Lets go back to the start. David John started TKR after watching Bathurst on TV with some mates and thought he might like to have a go. Angus Fogg was hired for his engineering skill and Jason Richards was hired for his marketing skills (50 Years On Track by Sany Myhre). If Jason said something nice it's because he's a nice guy intending to let sleeping dogs lie - what would Baird, Scott, or Radisich say that's going to back up Mr John.

Nothing for nothing in this world. TKR should pay it's bills first before embarking on new directions IMHO.

[Aussie 01]

Chappellie

Go back and look at SundayNews.co.nz and look under Jason Richards own section and you will be able to read it.

It has been over a year since Scott was involved with TKR so interesting now all other issues have gone dead you pull this one out but carefully put in the word allegedlly.

Does that mean you do not actually know 100% chappellie but are still keen on spreading this story????

Kayne Scott has also said as has Mark Petch that the Scott family own the
TKR car from last year yet it is still in TKR's control in Aust.

So which story is it??

Is the Scott family owed money and or do they own the car and or neither of the above stories this forum makes up.

[Chappelli]

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction for that Jason Richards bit... there it is!

To be honest Aussie01, the adding of "IE" on the end of my name to make ChappelLIE is a little childish, I'm not sure where you think I've "lied" but I'd appreciate you gorwing up a little and communicating like an adult. I'm not going to get into a battle of wits with an unarmed man.

Originally Posted by Aussie 01

It has been over a year since Scott was involved with TKR so interesting now all other issues have gone dead you pull this one out but carefully put in the word allegedlly.

I seem to remember Scott being involved with Team Kiwi Racing at Bathurst.... which correct me if I'm wrong, but I've got that being a little over 6 months ago.... not "over a year".

I say "allegedly" because Mark Petch (whom I do not know personally) posted it, I haven't verified it, I have know way of knowing whether it's factual or not... I choose to "pull it out now" because it was posted only a few posts before mine.

I pressume Mark Petch (and once again, I don't know and have never spoken to Mr Petch) decided to post the information because David John is from the sounds of things is planning to throw a bit cash around in the NZ Motorsport scene when he ALLEGEDLY owes a not-insignificant amount to the Scotts (among others).... Personally, I think it's fair enough if he's got an issue with that.

Originally Posted by Aussie 01

Does that mean you do not actually know 100% chappellie but are still keen on spreading this story????

Correct (see above).

As far as "spreading"the story goes... Well, I've replied to a post in the same thread as it was originally posted.... It's hardly "spreading" it and certainly if I WAS intending to spread anything, I can assure you I have far far more effective means of "spreading" information than posting it here.

Originally Posted by Aussie 01

Kayne Scott has also said as has Mark Petch that the Scott family own the
TKR car from last year yet it is still in TKR's control in Aust.

Control would suggest that TKR are free to do with the car what they like. Allegedly their's a lien on the asset. I have no doubt that the vehicle is a registered asset of TKR, but whether it's free of encumberment is another question.... Certainly from Mr Petch's post it would appear that the Scotts feel they are owed a fair amount of money (which if liquidated I would assume would make up a fair chunk of that particular asset).

Here's a question for you (or Mr John ): It's been made very very clear that TKR don't feel they were in the wrong with the annullment of the FPR contract. Given that TKR are now well and truely clear of the Ford NZ sponsorship (which I believe was the only reason stopping legal action) why wouldn't/hasn't David John sought damages? From what I know, if TKR are in the right, it's a pretty clear cut case and I imagine the damages would be significant...... So why wouldn't he you go for damages?

[opinion8head]

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[opinion8head]

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[smokin'joe]

sooooooooo................ how much money has it cost those who continue to believe in the master of deceit, when he says he will be at XXXX track on XXX day??
i know of people that have been to Ruapuna and Levels on said dates, 'cos TKR said they would honour the hotlaps.

suposedly they were asked to front up at Levels this weekend as they had 60 others turning up to be 'taken for a ride'

[opinion8head]

Anyone done the maths just on these "rides"?

60 x $500.00 = $30,000.00 paid to be "delayed" this past weekend?
They get asked to front up all over,even had North Island folks asked if they could make it down South for the most recent no show road show.
Might as well mention again, the ones that fronted up to the Puke no show a while back.
Strangely [or not] when they got his littleness on the phone they were told "wrong weekend"...WFT?

Hamilton Hot 100 Club...100 at $1000.00 each?....$100,000.00...?
Hamilton "sponsorship special packages" How many @ $50/60K for the year each...no "winners" here either!
How many citizens over the past 3 years at $500.00 each?
...$0000000.00...?

And the winner of the "Win Me" $1.00 car is/was...???

A bit like the the teams unpaid accounts total Eh...only two people really know,and they aint sayin

[rich07]

Originally Posted by smokin'joe

suposedly they were asked to front up at Levels this weekend as they had 60 others turning up to be 'taken for a ride'

What do they want? They've already been taken for a ride...........

[harcey]

I have followed this thread for a while now with the odd contribution.
i dont understand how after all ive read The feds or SFO or someone hasnt officially stepped in to stop this carry on!!!!!!!!!.surely not all the comments are Bull****.