Larry Perkins vs. Paul Dumbrell

lookleft · 10 Oct 2005, 07:10 (Ref:1429145)

Have the Drumbrell cheques stopped rolling into Perkins Engineering? We haven't seen a public bashing like that since Mr. Morris gave a free apraisal of Mr. Gurr.

FWIW I thought Larry was way out of line - sure Drumbrell made contact and glanced the wall on his second lap (with some assistance) but the terminal damage was done when CPR team sent it back out in a damaged state.

Clearly PD is out for next year - I doubt any other key teams would be interested. The second CPR car is a bit like the second GRM car these days - not the best place to show your talent.

dumbrell_fan · 10 Oct 2005, 07:34 (Ref:1429164)

i felt i better post back to this one, with me being PD fan club manager.

Larry comments were nto nice at all, i have not had the chance to speak to Paul or his Dad (Garry) to hear what they think of the comments.

I somehow think PD will be off to some other team next year

Camaroz · 10 Oct 2005, 07:39 (Ref:1429167)

Was it one of the HSVDT cars that 'assisted' PD into the wall at Griffins?

**GTRMagic** · 10 Oct 2005, 07:40 (Ref:1429168)

Quote:

Originally Posted by lookleft

Clearly PD is out for next year - I doubt any other key teams would be interested. The second CPR car is a bit like the second GRM car these days - not the best place to show your talent.

It seems that Mr Perkins has already taken up Mr Dumbrell's option.... so he will be a Perkins driver in season in 2006... unless something else happens.

Is now the appropriate time to mention LP's magic moment in overstaying his welcome driving V8Supercars... "old bloke, cold tyres, stuffed up" from only a few short years ago.

Mr Dumbrell is a talented driver, you cannot put a car in the top 10, and indeed sit on pole for almost all the session like last year if you cant drive.

Instead of shytcanning the driver, perhaps Mr Perkins would do well to mentor him, and indeed provide some insight as to what isnt working, as opposed to dropping a load in public....

dumbrell_fan · 10 Oct 2005, 07:56 (Ref:1429184)

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Is now the appropriate time to mention LP's magic moment in overstaying his welcome driving V8Supercars... "old bloke, cold tyres, stuffed up" from only a few short years ago.

Mr Dumbrell is a talented driver, you cannot put a car in the top 10, and indeed sit on pole for almost all the session like last year if you cant drive.

Instead of shytcanning the driver, perhaps Mr Perkins would do well to mentor him, and indeed provide some insight as to what isnt working, as opposed to dropping a load in public....

Well said there GTRMagic

lookleft · 10 Oct 2005, 08:29 (Ref:1429228)

Hope the intent of the thread was not missed - I was 100% behind Dumbrell on this one and believe he *could* do a Whicup on them next season if given the right atmosphere. LP walling it did come to mind, as does the sub-standard equip he is currently supplying some teams.

I can't believe either party would want to continue into next year but stranger things have happened...

**GTRMagic** · 10 Oct 2005, 08:36 (Ref:1429242)

I think Paul Dumbrell in an ex-PMM car, with IRCA running it for Mr Nash, with Autobarn on the sides, and a decent chassis engineer aboard would have been extremely competitive!

plonkey · 10 Oct 2005, 08:38 (Ref:1429244)

Dumbrell is too much of a Liability and Steven Richards deserves a quality Co Driver.

RS500 · 10 Oct 2005, 09:25 (Ref:1429305)

Quote:

Originally Posted by lookleft

Clearly PD is out for next year - I doubt any other key teams would be interested. The second CPR car is a bit like the second GRM car these days - not the best place to show your talent.

PD has got away with a few large incidents eg Adelaide, Pukehoe. This wasn't his fault with that bunper on the wheel why is larry so angry now?

Off topic but how ironic was the interview with Garry (after his second car hit the wall) when Wincup was hunting down the HRT car after he fired him for not being competative enough!

**GTRMagic** · 10 Oct 2005, 09:47 (Ref:1429334)

I guess Mr Rogers will just have to see how Mr Holdsworth does next year huh

Razor · 10 Oct 2005, 09:53 (Ref:1429337)

Does anyone have audio file of LP giving his two cents on Paul Dumbrell

bartman71 · 10 Oct 2005, 09:56 (Ref:1429340)

Dumbrell brings to much money in to Perkins from what i hear so will be there next year.

XW GT · 10 Oct 2005, 09:57 (Ref:1429343)

Quote:

Originally Posted by plonkey

Dumbrell is too much of a Liability and Steven Richards deserves a quality Co Driver.

With respect mate, I think that you are out of line again, much the same as your comments about Brad Jones. Please put your comics aside and read a couple of motor sport magazines to maybe find out what actually goes on in our sport, then make some "adult" comments!

**GTRMagic** · 10 Oct 2005, 10:03 (Ref:1429355)

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Originally Posted by bartman71

Dumbrell brings to much money in to Perkins from what i hear so will be there next year.

There arent any sponsors on the Perkins cars because of Mr Dumbrell.... this season anyway

bartman71 · 10 Oct 2005, 10:06 (Ref:1429360)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

There arent any sponsors on the Perkins cars because of Mr Dumbrell.... this season anyway

only becuase WYNNS and Castrol are conflicting companies. next year with Castrol gone are we going to see WYNNS back as a major sponser?

dumbrell_fan · 10 Oct 2005, 10:09 (Ref:1429363)

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

There arent any sponsors on the Perkins cars because of Mr Dumbrell.... this season anyway

All the Dumbrell money (sponsors) goes into the Autobarn car this year now? Am i right?

XW GT · 10 Oct 2005, 10:27 (Ref:1429382)

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Originally Posted by bartman71

only becuase WYNNS and Castrol are conflicting companies. next year with Castrol gone are we going to see WYNNS back as a major sponser?

You are spot on. It is obvious (and has been for a couple of years) that Perkins does not really want Dumbrell in the team. But the contribution that Mr Dumbrell senior injects into the team makes it a must for Larry to keep junior. If anybody has spoken to an ex Perkins employee, and indeed his friends, they would be told that Mr Perkins is one of the hardest blokes to please.

**GTRMagic** · 10 Oct 2005, 11:21 (Ref:1429462)

Quote:

Originally Posted by lowndesfan

All the Dumbrell money (sponsors) goes into the Autobarn car this year now? Am i right?

Australian Dealer Insurance was on the Castrol Perkins cars in season 2004, and are now on the Autobarn car. Mr Dumbrell Sr is on one of the Autobarn boards also....

gab73 · 10 Oct 2005, 11:46 (Ref:1429501)

i have to agree with Perkins comments about PD .
I had the same thoughts about him and the incident before they spoke to larry.
No doubt the guy can drive but such a STUPID mistake on the biggest race of the year is inexcusable.( same goes for Lowndes).

rdmdog · 10 Oct 2005, 11:52 (Ref:1429506)

Id have to say PD has caused a few too many problems for my liking, but I think he got shafted BIG time at Pukke...............

lookleft · 10 Oct 2005, 23:59 (Ref:1430275)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gab73

i have to agree with Perkins comments about PD .
I had the same thoughts about him and the incident before they spoke to larry.
No doubt the guy can drive but such a STUPID mistake on the biggest race of the year is inexcusable.( same goes for Lowndes).

What, letting a HRT(2) car clip him forcing him into the wall? Stupid mistakes - must be hard being perfect in an imperfect world!

Peddler · 11 Oct 2005, 04:39 (Ref:1430377)

yeahh i agree with those about Larry's last few efforts behind the wheel

i really felt that Larry was out of line.. also being a fan of the man for some
years, i was a little embarssed for the whole team re LP's comments

Dumbrell is a quality driver.. i believe with a decent car and support of his team owner/manager you would see some good things.

Techo · 11 Oct 2005, 05:07 (Ref:1430393)

GTR, Maybe PD could use his previous engineer from the Konica series ?
IRCA you have suggested could this be the Dumbrell B plan ?

DKGandBH · 11 Oct 2005, 06:48 (Ref:1430422)

Get punted into the wall.
Have the damage fixed and tyre replaced.
Hit Wall again. [1]

Do we know the reason for [1] ?
Was it tyre/mechanical failure due to initial damage ?

DKGandBH

plonkey · 11 Oct 2005, 09:36 (Ref:1430523)

Quote:

Originally Posted by XW GT

With respect mate, I think that you are out of line again, much the same as your comments about Brad Jones. Please put your comics aside and read a couple of motor sport magazines to maybe find out what actually goes on in our sport, then make some "adult" comments!

Grow a sense of humour.

What had Dumbrell done this year in a top level team?

Wasnt the 11 car rebadged to 24 so that its license gathered points?

The 24 car is Dumbrells isnt it? mmmmmmmmmmmm

I reckon Dumbrell would be bettr off driving with Besnard.

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