[WEC Race] Bahrain 6 Hours 2012

[TF110]

Lost 4 laps. Damn lights.

[gwyllion]

Originally Posted by spectre200

This is annoying. The number of times I've seen cars at Le Mans with the side numbers not lit, an nobody seemed to care.

Sorry, but these rules is enforced strictly. The #2 Audi also had to come in because one headlight was not working properly.

[TF110]

Toyota going to have to put it in overdrive and pray for some Audi problems and safety cars.

[spectre200]

One of the Rebellion Lolas has also lost its side light. Let's see if they get pulled in too...

Also, headlights I can understand in a night race. But number lamps are not for safety, this is a rule for the sake of a rule

[gwyllion]

Originally Posted by spectre200

One of the Rebellion Lolas has also lost its side light. Let's see if they get pulled in too...

I am not sure if that will be necessary.

2.4.2 – For races run at night or partly at night, the cars must be equipped with white electroluminescent supports, the coloured background will be cut out around the numbers so that they are illuminated at night.
If it is impossible to identify a car from its numbers (by day or by night), it will be stopped by Race Control.

One number might be enough to identify.

[trickyd]

is it just me or is this whole racing in the dark lark not exactly ideal as far as televisual experience is concerned?

[spectre200]

Possibly, I admit I thought the Toyota only lost the left number light, not both. But it's the only Toyota on track, so it should still be possible to identify it - the circuit is half lit anyway. But if we are going to destroy a race for a fairly pedantic reason, let's apply it everywhere. (Also Corvette 50 is guilty too.)

[gwyllion]

This has happened in the past with cars being black flagged because of damaged louvers.

[TF110]

Fastest lap for Toyota, 1:47.1

[spectre200]

Louvres, legality panels - I could just about see the point of these (avoiding unfair aero advantage, or stopping cars driving up each other's wheels). Headlamps for a night race - fine. But this was none of the above, and it has ruined a race for no good reason.

[GT3.14]

Hindy mentioned that the brochure for next year's Lotus is available. Is this a digital brochure on a website or a paper one? I would like to see it.

[gwyllion]

Originally Posted by spectre200

One of the Rebellion Lolas has also lost its side light. Let's see if they get pulled in too...

The #13 Rebellion has just been black flagged for a defective number panel

[Lorenzo S]

Originally Posted by spectre200

One of the Rebellion Lolas has also lost its side light. Let's see if they get pulled in too...

Also, headlights I can understand in a night race. But number lamps are not for safety, this is a rule for the sake of a rule

A lot of rules appear to be there solely for that sake of it. However, they do apply equally to everyone. In this case though they are useful, if not essential at night.

Don't blame the rule for spoiling the race, blame Toyota for not designing the part in a way which allowed a fast change.

EDIT: Rebellion gets an orange and black flag for the exact same problem.

[spectre200]

Ferrari 51 also has a number plate lamp out.... that's 4 cars I've personally noticed. If they are going to apply this rule consistently (as they should!) it's going to get very silly.

I doubt Toyota (and the others) make their own number plate lamps. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the teams are only using a few suppliers between them. But surely this is not the way to decide a race.

[airbusA346]

Originally Posted by spectre200

Ferrari 51 also has a number plate lamp out.... that's 4 cars I've personally noticed. If they are going to apply this rule consistently (as they should!) it's going to get very silly.

I doubt Toyota (and the others) make their own number plate lamps. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the teams are only using a few suppliers between them. But surely this is not the way to decide a race.

51 has been called to race control.

[Dead-Eye]

Originally Posted by spectre200

Ferrari 51 also has a number plate lamp out.... that's 4 cars I've personally noticed. If they are going to apply this rule consistently (as they should!) it's going to get very silly.

I doubt Toyota (and the others) make their own number plate lamps. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the teams are only using a few suppliers between them. But surely this is not the way to decide a race.

I think the issue is having both sides out, which the Toyota had. Not sure about the others.

[spectre200]

Ok, I will shut up now, I think race control are monitoring this thread and I'm inadvertently assisting!

We could just park the cars, and the winner is the last one to blow the lights

[Lorenzo S]

Originally Posted by spectre200

... I doubt Toyota (and the others) make their own number plate lamps. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the teams are only using a few suppliers between them. But surely this is not the way to decide a race.

Actually nearly all of the teams use the same supplier: Surelight

[ger80]

Originally Posted by GT3.14

Hindy mentioned that the brochure for next year's Lotus is available. Is this a digital brochure on a website or a paper one? I would like to see it.

They had it in Silverstone as well and it should be on the website

[gwyllion]

The brochure of the Lotus LMP2 can be downloaded at http://www.lotus-lmp2.com/images/con...OTUS-T-128.pdf

[TF110]

Audi #2 has a headlight issue.

[gwyllion]

Lapierre is unable to double stint the tyres. His second stint on tyres is a lot shorter than expected: 19 laps instead of 25 laps.

[GT3.14]

Thank you for the info and link ger80 and Gwyllion.

[airbusA346]

51 to race control again.

[Creep89]

Mhm.. So much mistakes for Joest oO