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Old 9 Feb 2011, 13:06 (Ref:2828385)   #51
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It's also a shame the government didn't make the towing licence law retrospective as they wanted to originally instead of just for everyone who passed after 1997.
I wasn't aware there was a towing licence! Is there legislation prohibiting anyone passing their test after 1997 from towing without a qulaification?
Where and how do you get a towing licence? It does not effect me but I feel it is something I should be aware of!

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Old 9 Feb 2011, 13:11 (Ref:2828389)   #52
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I wasn't aware there was a towing licence! Is there legislation prohibiting anyone passing their test after 1997 from towing without a qulaification?
Where and how do you get a towing licence? It does not effect me but I feel it is something I should be aware of!
then spend ten seconds with google !
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Old 9 Feb 2011, 13:20 (Ref:2828400)   #53
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It is nigh on impossible to make laws retrospective. If you go down that route for one statute you could make criminals of entirely innocent people.

Had they just said that "as of now" anyone without the necessary training cannot ......." then it would be backdating the statute. However I suspect they were frightend by the amount of work involved in actually checking etc. Especially as under Labour the police were there to stop us from photgraphing buildings rather than catch criminals.
The gubbermant of the day wanted everyone that had ordinary car licences to take a test to drive anything over 3.5MAM and another test to tow trailers. Due to lobbying from the haulage industry concerning the expense involved they relented and made it a requirement for anyone passing their test after 1997.
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Old 9 Feb 2011, 13:22 (Ref:2828404)   #54
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Yes but that isn't the same as making statutes retrospective. Also the answer you gave is what I surmised. Oh God I'm turning into Gordon Brooon.
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Old 9 Feb 2011, 13:26 (Ref:2828409)   #55
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Yes but that isn't the same as making statutes retrospective. Also the answer you gave is what I surmised. Oh God I'm turning into Gordon Brooon.
I think you know what I mean Gordon.
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Old 9 Feb 2011, 13:30 (Ref:2828417)   #56
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I have indeed completely eliminated boom and bust. Or summink.
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Old 9 Feb 2011, 13:31 (Ref:2828418)   #57
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Funnily enough I find towing my 20ft trailer behind my 30ft camper to be a piece of cake. The overhang at the back of the camper effectively steers the trailer around tight bends and roundabouts.
Funny you should say that, when I first towed my big trailer behind the Atego with 22ft body and long overhang I was dreading corners, but exactly as you say, the back end swings out and trailer tracks perfectly!

And with you on the comfort front- watch this space.........

Nice to see this thread had drifted off into a serious discussion about licences and legal stuff. For once OT is OK!
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Old 9 Feb 2011, 14:01 (Ref:2828435)   #58
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Hope nobodys having a pop at lefthanders,,,,,,thats me


I love these threads,never know where you'll end up..
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Old 9 Feb 2011, 14:04 (Ref:2828437)   #59
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Usually Porsche 924 eligibility issues. Gawd knows why though.
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Old 9 Feb 2011, 14:34 (Ref:2828450)   #60
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Sorry Peter (re editing tags) got a bit carried away in all the excitement of the discussion.

BTW what is the answer to the original question of "why the rant about wealthy have it on a plate Mr Motorhome racer?" That is much more juicy than chatting about trailer licences !
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Old 9 Feb 2011, 15:37 (Ref:2828496)   #61
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I love these threads,never know where you'll end up..
60 posts and no mention of MGBs, I mentioned them.
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Old 9 Feb 2011, 16:06 (Ref:2828517)   #62
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60 posts and no mention of PORSCHE 924s, I mentioned them.
<< Fixed that for you.
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Old 9 Feb 2011, 16:39 (Ref:2828547)   #63
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Arhh, the sports car of the proletariat.
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Old 9 Feb 2011, 16:55 (Ref:2828559)   #64
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And Peter's post as well!
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In the immortal words of Bob Dyan Subterranian Homesick Blues, 'I'm iron branded 'cause I'm left handed' Brilliant.
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Old 9 Feb 2011, 18:31 (Ref:2828629)   #66
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With ref to Motor homes taking up space I remember one over-budgeted 750MC member, at a time when motor homes in the 750 paddock were a rarity, marking out an enormous area of paddock alongside his trailer so that he was sure to be able to park his motor home on race morning after driving it back from his .... hotel for the weekend.

Watching him trying to thread his way through the scrutineering queue ... "I'm big. Out of my way" ... was something to behold.

The same chap was later heard waxing critically about how expensive motor racing was.

When the revolution comes ....

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Old 9 Feb 2011, 18:58 (Ref:2828644)   #67
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Genius, you guys really are genius

Enjoy yourselves this year huh

One little stir and you still harp on about it!!

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So, they're not socialists, they're capitalists!


Hey this is a fun thread, especially how it has developed.
Frankly I could care less were people's money has come from. I'll drink with anyone.
As for idoits in the paddock, as said above, that is nothing to do with money, racing, or anything. They are just idiots.
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Old 9 Feb 2011, 20:17 (Ref:2828685)   #69
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In the immortal words of Bob Dyan Subterranian Homesick Blues, 'I'm iron branded 'cause I'm left handed' Brilliant.
"And the pump dont work cause the vandals took the handle"
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Old 9 Feb 2011, 21:51 (Ref:2828743)   #70
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Going back to the original post, what's the problem with the so called Winni brigade, if they have money because of their parents so what? Unless you are either an arse, sadist or Paul McCartney or even all three we all want to try and help our kids to a better life than we have had.
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Remember that there are people who look at you (new or old money, Winni or tent) and think you are an idiot too.
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I resemble that remark!
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Welcome back Chunder

At least you give us something to write about.

Oh, and do pop round for a cuppa if you see us in the paddock, kettles always on.
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At least you give us something to write about.

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But remember to wipe your feet and be careful with the bone china.....
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