FIA F3 Intercontinental Cup - 56th Macau GP

[N.A-D.R]

Is there any live timing or live stream for qualifying 2?

[FastisSlow]

For live Timing as Valker mentioned there is MST:

http://www.mstworld.com/timing/livet...s=wtcc-support

There seems to be a Red flag now but no idea what happened...

Streaming afaik is not available...

[N.A-D.R]

This red flag is going to ruin the session. Guys like Ricciardo, Hartley, Ericsson, Bird haven't even set a proper lap time yet...sucks

[Andy77]

It looks like they get another 17min

[N.A-D.R]

Unfortunately Ricciardo hit the tyre barrier on a quick one, i reckon he would of been right up there with the top 3 easily, but that happens. Race tomorrow is going to be exciting.

[Fujer]

YES! Ericsson!!!

POS NO CL DRIVER NAT TEAM TIME LAPS GAP KPH
1 1 T Marcus ERICSSON SWE Tom's 2:10.042 16 169.42
2 14 VW Jean-Karl VERNAY FRA Signature 2:10.081 18 0.039 169.37
3 4 MB Valtteri BOTTAS FIN ART Grand Prix 2:10.108 17 0.066 169.33
4 16 VW Edoardo MORTARA ITA Signature 2:10.234 16 0.192 169.17
5 6 VW Daniel RICCIARDO AUS Carlin 2:10.780 17 0.738 168.46
6 15 VW Laurens VANTHOOR BEL Signature 2:11.073 16 1.031 168.09
7 3 MB Jules BIANCHI FRA ART Grand Prix 2:11.279 17 1.237 167.82
8 5 MB Sam BIRD GBR ART Grand Prix 2:11.334 17 1.292 167.75
9 28 MB Stefano COLETTI MON Prema Powerteam 2:11.476 17 1.434 167.57
10 11 VW Mika MAKI FIN Hitech Racing 2:11.812 17 1.770 167.14
11 2 T Takuto IGUCHI JPN Tom's 2:12.024 18 1.982 166.87
12 22 MB Roberto MERHI ESP Manor Motorsport 2:12.068 17 2.026 166.82
13 7 VW Brendon HARTLEY NZL Carlin 2:12.168 15 2.126 166.69
14 18 MB Alexander SIMS GBR City of Dreams Raikkonen Ro'son 2:12.256 16 2.214 166.58
15 17 MB Renger van der ZANDE NED City of Dreams Raikkonen Ro'son 2:12.306 17 2.264 166.52
16 23 T Yuji KUNIMOTO JPN NOW Motor Sports 2:12.547 16 2.505 166.22
17 8 VW Max CHILTON GBR Carlin 2:12.568 18 2.526 166.19
18 12 VW Wayne BOYD GBR Hitech Racing 2:12.749 8 2.707 165.96
19 27 MB Jake ROSENZWEIG USA Fortec Motorsport 2:13.000 8 2.958 165.65
20 10 H Kei COZZOLINO ITA Toda Racing 2:13.051 16 3.009 165.59
21 29 MB Daniel ZAMPIERI ITA Prema Powerteam 2:13.734 17 3.692 164.74
22 25 MB Victor GARCIA ESP Fortec Motorsport 2:13.781 17 3.739 164.68
23 24 T Koki SAGA JPN Le Beausset Motorsports 2:13.825 17 3.783 164.63
24 30 VW Stef DUSSELDORP NED Kolles & Heinz Union 2:13.946 16 3.904 164.48
25 31 VW Alexandre IMPERATORI SUI KCMG by Kolles & Heinz Union 2:14.124 16 4.082 164.26
26 21 MB Carlos HUERTAS COL Manor Motorsport 2:14.321 3 4.279 164.02
27 9 VW Henry ARUNDEL GBR Carlin 2:14.362 17 4.320 163.97
28 26 MB Daniel MCKENZIE GBR Fortec Motorsport 2:16.210 18 6.168 161.75
29 20 MB Michael HO MAC Champ M'sport Manor M'sport 2:18.484 15 8.442 159.09
30 19 MB Kevin CHEN TPE Champ M'sport Raikkonen Ro'son 2:18.910 16 8.868 158.60

[strider]

Originally Posted by N.A-D.R

This red flag is going to ruin the session. Guys like Ricciardo, Hartley, Ericsson, Bird haven't even set a proper lap time yet...sucks

No, that's Macau!

You don't even have to have an accident yourself; your chances can be spoilt by someone else's accident. It happens every year, so why should this year be any different?

[ivanalesi]

Yep, actually Mortara and Vernay have ideal lap time half a second faster than the rest, but not enough. For tomorrow I think we have quite a large number of favourites!

[strider]

Here are the qualifying times in the format that I find easiest to follow:

Pos Driver                Team         Car    Time         Gap
 1. Marcus Ericsson       TOM's        D/T    2:10.042
 2. Jean-Karl Vernay      Signature    D/V    2:10.081  +0.039
 3. Valtteri Bottas       ART          D/M    2:10.108  +0.066
 4. Edoardo Mortara       Signature    D/V    2:10.234  +0.192
 5. Daniel Ricciardo      Carlin       D/V    2:10.780  +0.738
 6. Laurens Vanthoor      Signature    D/V    2:11.073  +1.031
 7. Jules Bianchi         ART          D/M    2:11.279  +1.237
 8. Sam Bird              ART          D/M    2:11.334  +1.292
 9. Stefano Coletti       Prema        D/M    2:11.476  +1.434
10. Mika Maki             Hitech       D/M    2:11.812  +1.770
11. Takuto Iguchi         TOM's        D/T    2:12.024  +1.982
12. Roberto Merhi         Manor        D/M    2:12.068  +2.026
13. Brendon Hartley       Carlin       D/V    2:12.168  +2.126
14. Alexander Sims        Double R     D/M    2:12.256  +2.214
15. Renger van der Zande  Double R     D/M    2:12.306  +2.264
16. Yuji Kunimoto         NOW          D/T    2:12.547  +2.505
17. Max Chilton           Carlin       D/V    2:12.568  +2.526
18. Wayne Boyd            Hitech       D/M    2:12.749  +2.707
19. Jake Rosenzweig       Fortec       D/M    2:13.000  +2.958
20. Kei Cozzolino         Toda         D/H    2:13.051  +3.009
21. Daniel Zampieri       Prema        D/M    2:13.734  +3.692
22. Victor Garcia         Fortec       D/M    2:13.781  +3.739
23. Koki Saga             Le Beausset  D/T    2:13.825  +3.783
24. Stef Dusseldorp       Kolles       D/V    2:13.946  +3.904
25. Alexandre Imperatori  Kolles       D/V    2:14.124  +4.082
26. Carlos Huertas        Manor        D/M    2:14.321  +4.279
27. Henry Arundel         Carlin       D/V    2:14.362  +4.320
28. Daniel McKenzie       Fortec       D/M    2:16.210  +6.168
29. Michael Ho            Manor        D/M    2:18.484  +8.442
30. Kevin Chen            Double R     D/M    2:18.910  +8.868

Tomorrow's race is purely a qualification race ahead of the feature race on Sunday, so in theory several of those drivers who did less well here than expected still have the chance to come through.

I'd say anyone of the top 15 has the chance of finishing on the podium on Sunday. I won't name names,because that would be unkind, but there are some drivers in the bottom six or so who are not doing much except wasting time and money. Still, if they have it to spend, why not?

[N.A-D.R]

Originally Posted by strider

No, that's Macau!

You don't even have to have an accident yourself; your chances can be spoilt by someone else's accident. It happens every year, so why should this year be any different?

It's not any different...That's what point i was trying to make. But anyhow it got restarted with no lost time, as i thought it wasn't going to be restarted.

[skells22]

now my next question is will these cars safety get past Lisboa or will we need yet another red flag

[Valker]

Originally Posted by ivanalesi

Yep, actually Mortara and Vernay have ideal lap time half a second faster than the rest, but not enough.

"Perfect lap" combined of the best sector times doesn't tell the whole truth. The best sector may be done when missing breaking in the end of the sector, meaning that the next sector is ruined in any case...

And it's also possible that setups where changed during the qualifying, so the best sectors were clocked with different setups and so on.

One should check all the sector times to see if Mortara and Vernay were really that fast (so if there's for example always a bad 2nd sector after a good 1st sector etc).

[Andy77]

Originally Posted by skells22

now my next question is will these cars safety get past Lisboa or will we need yet another red flag

Red flag through a Lisboa Bend accident, better pile up, only happens if there is no safe way around the carnage. That happens sometimes, but I think I remember a couple instances when some cars piled up but more or less hung in that straightaway exit so that the field could get past under yellow for the removal.

[chunterer]

Interesting line up for the first race. I'm gonna plump for Bottas. His ES campaign perhaps didn't auite go as he would've liked but methinks he will make up for it here.

However if Mortara drives as crazily as he has been in GP2 and FR3.5 this season then there could be a problem with that aim.

Hartley hasn't done well enough. In his position it's two fold. He is either going to massively benefit from any first corner aggro ahead of him or massively suffer.

[Andy77]

Originally Posted by chunterer

Interesting line up for the first race. I'm gonna plump for Bottas. His ES campaign perhaps didn't auite go as he would've liked but methinks he will make up for it here.

However if Mortara drives as crazily as he has been in GP2 and FR3.5 this season then there could be a problem with that aim.

Hartley hasn't done well enough. In his position it's two fold. He is either going to massively benefit from any first corner aggro ahead of him or massively suffer.

Well, from what I remember fromthe past few years (way down to etcc days), leading down the way to t1 (lisboa bend; i dont count the kink before) in lap1 is the most unpleasent position of em all. With motorcycles the field is usually sorted before, on 4 wheels it looks different. The safest bet is on the driver who escapes the usual t1 carnage right after start in the leading position. The big question is who that could be. I'll take the outsider bet and say Ericsson. Until Mortara (he is good but a bit too hot blooded too) they are involved in said 1st corner incident with Ericsson escaping it.
My other bet is that Ericsson will be on pole for the GP on Sunday.

By the way, is there any chance to watch either both races, at least the GP somewhere here in good ole europe?

[runshaw]

Interesting fact, 16 of this years F1 drivers have raced in the Macau F3 Grand Prix; and none of them won it! Button, Kubica, Trulli and Kovalainen all finished 2nd.

[strider]

The qualifying race has been run and the results were:

Pos  Driver                Team            Car  Time/Gap
 1.  Jean-Karl Vernay      Signature       D/V  31m52.192s
 2.  Marcus Ericsson       TOM'S           D/T  + 0.271s
 3.  Edoardo Mortara       Signature       D/V  + 1.094s
 4.  Valtteri Bottas       ART             D/M  + 1.587s
 5.  Laurens Vanthoor      Signature       D/V  + 2.178s
 6.  Daniel Ricciardo      Carlin          D/V  + 4.598s
 7.  Sam Bird              ART             D/M  + 6.093s
 8.  Takuto Iguchi         TOM'S           D/T  + 6.665s
 9.  Roberto Merhi         Manor           D/M  + 8.072s
10.  Mika Maki             Hitech          D/V  + 9.250s
11.  Renger van der Zande  Double R        D/M  + 9.720s
12.  Yuji Kunimoto         Now             D/T  + 10.493s
13.  Alexander Sims        Double R        D/M  + 10.769s
14.  Victor Garcia         Fortec          D/M  + 11.149s
15.  Max Chilton           Carlin          D/V  + 11.627s
16.  Kei Cozzolino         Toda            D/H  + 13.395s
17.  Stef Dusseldorp       Kolles & Heinz  D/V  + 14.531s
18.  Kouki Saga            La Beausset     D/T  + 19.317s
19.  Carlos Huertas        Manor           D/M  + 20.060s
20.  Daniel Zampieri       Prema           D/M  + 20.292s
21.  Jules Bianchi         ART             D/M  + 20.624s
22.  Stefano Coletti       Prema           D/M  + 21.332s
23.  Alexandre Imperatori  Kolles & Heinz  D/V  + 21.974s
24.  Brendon Hartley       Carlin          D/V  + 22.262s
25.  Daniel McKenzie       Fortec          D/M  + 23.145s
26.  Michael Ho            Manor           D/M  + 24.222s

Retirements:

     Wayne Boyd            Hitech          D/V  6 laps
     Henry Arundel         Carlin          D/V  5 laps
     Jake Rosenzweig       Fortec          D/M  0 laps

There's a race report here: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80267

Signature did very well to get three cars in the first five. It looks as the VW engine is the strongest out there, although TOM'S may tweak Ericsson's car for the feature race tomorrow.

Bianchi, Coletti and Hartley are out of contention for the big race win after incidents in this one.

[Fujer]

i hope Mortara will get a penelty for overtaking Ericsson under yellowflags. stupid rookie misstake and dangerous.

Overall VW engines are scary fast in a straight line =)

[Peat]

Highlights here: http://www.macau.grandprix.gov.mo/mg...eo.php?lang=en

(the last vid is race 1 btw)

[Andy77]

It was an interesting race which was a bit chaotic for the spectator in the end. While the stewards showed the last lap sign under full course yellow, the field was lead into an additional (11th) green flag lap. Other than that it was rather surprising how well the guys behaved

[sceptic]

Originally Posted by skells22

no live F3 race for us in the UK meaning we have to wait for the highlights. by the way want time is the Macau F3 race starts in GMT please

It is live on ESPN and ESPN HD in the UK. Starts at 7.30am

[skells22]

thankyou. not got that channel.

[skells22]

at least if anyone got that channel at least know the result and any 1st lap headaches.

[skells22]

i wonder if there will be misbehaving tommorw

[N.A-D.R]

Well it's all or nothing tomorrow. So i'd say so...