BTCC 2019 season discussion, News and Rumours! - Page 88

btccbloke · 14 Dec 2018, 13:51 (Ref:3870214)

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Originally Posted by Plato

but the hondas din't end up with ballast being put in an unfair place a few days before first race of a season ruining the handling did they

I think that the Subarus being given this penalty to nullify any advantage they had just echo's Sceptic's point that they are not hiding potential, without this I would imagine the Subarus would have been far more dominant, especially 2017 and well ahead of Honda on results over last 3 years.

For all of the accusation of Honda bias, they have had a new car to learn, and did have their boost turned right down in 2017. also worth noting that high proportion of these wins had come from Eurotech and Norlin now anyway

**Peter Mallett** · 14 Dec 2018, 14:19 (Ref:3870221)

Cadwell is geographically restrained and probably too narrow for BTCC nowadays. Not sure Castle Combe would either need or want the hassle.

Angelsey may suit with some upgrades. Pembrey is past its sell by now.

S griffin · 14 Dec 2018, 14:50 (Ref:3870227)

So no Collard at WSR then. Be interesting to see if he finds another seat in the series. Where else could he go I wonder?

Northern Monkey · 14 Dec 2018, 14:50 (Ref:3870228)

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Originally Posted by Evantra

Think he'll be stupid to switch the Merc for an Infiniti.... looks like the Q50s are destined for a running in Lines' Touring Car Trophy.

I wouldn't expect to see then swap to the Q50 but at the same time, I don't think the real potential of that car has been unlocked in any way so no-one knows how good it could be/have been.

That said, the fact that someone seriously looked into bringing at least one out to play in 2018 means you should never say never...

porsche962fan · 14 Dec 2018, 14:54 (Ref:3870231)

the Q50 is not for BTCC but for the other series

porsche962fan · 14 Dec 2018, 14:56 (Ref:3870233)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

So no Collard at WSR then. Be interesting to see if he finds another seat in the series. Where else could he go I wonder?

odds raise that Colin won't lose his seat again

S griffin · 14 Dec 2018, 15:01 (Ref:3870235)

Depends if he decides to do WTCR in 2019

**BertMk2** · 14 Dec 2018, 15:07 (Ref:3870237)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

So no Collard at WSR then. Be interesting to see if he finds another seat in the series. Where else could he go I wonder?

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

odds raise that Colin won't lose his seat again

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Originally Posted by S griffin

Depends if he decides to do WTCR in 2019

If Collard has lost his seat at WSR it does suggest that they have drivers signed for the other two cars (otherwise the door would still be open for Collard - if for example Turkington did WTCR instead of BTCC).

btccbloke · 14 Dec 2018, 15:19 (Ref:3870239)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

the Q50 is not for BTCC but for the other series

Your probably right, but I noted he made the point that has the pair of them, and they own them, that was quite clear, (so they arent just storing them or preparing for another team or leasing them) I guess if its proven to be a better car there is nothing to stop him having 1 as a BTCC racer and the other as a rent-a-ride for TCT (or spares) which can be kept on the old parts.

I would like to see what the Infiniti can do with a decent peddler and a good team working on it., surely they wont take much to be bought up to current spec as I would imagine they have a lot of the standardised parts laying around from the Mercedes

RS67 · 14 Dec 2018, 15:53 (Ref:3870246)

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Originally Posted by BertMk2

If Collard has lost his seat at WSR it does suggest that they have drivers signed for the other two cars (otherwise the door would still be open for Collard - if for example Turkington did WTCR instead of BTCC).

Think you will find Collard had already decided to step down before the season ended or soon after. It isn't a case of losing the seat.

btccbloke · 14 Dec 2018, 15:59 (Ref:3870248)

Jake at TPC
http://www.btcc.net/2018/12/14/trade...gns-jake-hill/

Evantra · 14 Dec 2018, 16:04 (Ref:3870250)

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Originally Posted by btccbloke

Jake at TPC
http://www.btcc.net/2018/12/14/trade...gns-jake-hill/

A little disappointed it wasn't the Civic but excellent to see Jake back. Really hope the Audis are improved this year!

mark_l · 14 Dec 2018, 16:27 (Ref:3870253)

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Originally Posted by Evantra

A little disappointed it wasn't the Civic but excellent to see Jake back. Really hope the Audis are improved this year!

Jake was never going to be in a Civic as Trade Price Cars Racing do not own any Hondas, they only have Audis. AmD is merely the team providing the preparation and on-track support.

It is good to see Jake back in the championship but with 2019 being his 6th season he will need to prove he can improve his results.

**BertMk2** · 14 Dec 2018, 16:27 (Ref:3870254)

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Originally Posted by RS67

Think you will find Collard had already decided to step down before the season ended or soon after. It isn't a case of losing the seat.

Possibly - but that's not how it's been reported this week:

https://www.autosport.com/btcc/news/...-ahead-of-2019

From the article:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Collard

Obviously, I am very disappointed to lose my seat with WSR after so many years with the team and after the success that we have enjoyed together," he said.

porsche962fan · 14 Dec 2018, 16:56 (Ref:3870264)

10 drivers fully confirmed

MG - Excelr8 Motorsport - ???????
MG - Excelr8 Motorsport - Rob Smith

Volkswagen CC - Team HARD - Mike Bushell
Volkswagen CC - Team HARD - Bobby Thompson
Volkswagen CC - Team HARD - Carl Boardley
Volkswagen CC - Team HARD - Michael Crees

Toyota Corolla - Speedworks - Tom Ingram

Mercedes A - Ciceley - Adam Morgan
Mercedes A - Ciceley - Dan Rowbottom

Mercedes A - Laser Tools - Aidan Moffat ?

Honda Civic - Team Dynamics - Matt Neal ??
Honda Civic - Team Dynamics - Dan Cammish

Honda Civic - BTC Norlin - ????
Honda Civic - BTC Norlin - ????

Honda Civic - Simpson Racing - Matt Simpson

Honda Civic - AMD - ????????
Honda Civic - AMD - ????????

Audi S3 - Trade Price Cars Racing - Jake Hill
Audi S3 - Trade Price Cars Racing - ???????

Vauxhall Astra - PMR - ?????
Vauxhall Astra - PMR - ?????

BMW 125 - WSR - Tom Oliphant
BMW 125 - WSR - Andrew Jordan ??
BMW 125 - WSR - ??????

BMW 125 - Team Parker - Stephen Jelley ??

Ford Focus - Motorbase - Tom Chilton ??
Ford Focus - Motorbase - Olie Jackson ??
Ford Focus - Motorbase - ?????

Subaru Levorg - BMR - Ash Sutton ???
Subaru Levorg - BMR - ????

btccbloke · 14 Dec 2018, 16:58 (Ref:3870266)

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Originally Posted by mark_l

Jake was never going to be in a Civic as Trade Price Cars Racing do not own any Hondas, they only have Audis. AmD is merely the team providing the preparation and on-track support.

It is good to see Jake back in the championship but with 2019 being his 6th season he will need to prove he can improve his results.

Jakes results are yet to make me think hes the real deal but the team owners seem to love him.
However a bit harsh to call it his 6th season when only 2 have been full seasons, not sure 2 rounds in 2 cars in 2013 or a 1 off in 2015 should really count as "seasons"

Racer65 · 14 Dec 2018, 17:00 (Ref:3870267)

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Originally Posted by RS67

Think you will find Collard had already decided to step down before the season ended or soon after. It isn't a case of losing the seat.

He said in MSN that he was disappointed to lose his seat so it doesn't sound like it was 100% his decision.

porsche962fan · 14 Dec 2018, 17:01 (Ref:3870268)

you remember Jake Hill did drove the 2nd RAR Audi and he outperform Rob Austin himself in only his first outing

btccbloke · 14 Dec 2018, 17:04 (Ref:3870270)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

you remember Jake Hill did drove the 2nd RAR Audi and he outperform Rob Austin himself in only his first outing

Probably why Rob didn't retain him

jsmee · 14 Dec 2018, 17:49 (Ref:3870282)

Always rated Jake Hill and no idea why others havent spotted his talent. His performances have not flattered in the VWCC with Team Hard, but then whose performances particularly have in that partnership in recent years?

Theres a reason team principals in 2017 voted him in their top 10 drivers of the season that year in MN, if i recall.

AmD have traditionally shown flashes of performance, the MGs definitely overperformed last year with Butcher and the Audi is only ever getting closer to the front.

Hoping for a good performance from Hill this year, and hope the team stick with that bright blue/fluoro yellow livery..

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billy bleach · 14 Dec 2018, 17:50 (Ref:3870283)

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Originally Posted by BertMk2

Possibly - but that's not how it's been reported this week:

https://www.autosport.com/btcc/news/...-ahead-of-2019

From the article:

If it’s in Autosport it must be true and accurate ....

porsche962fan · 14 Dec 2018, 17:55 (Ref:3870285)

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Originally Posted by jsmee

AmD have traditionally shown flashes of performance, the MGs definitely overperformed last year with Butcher and the Audi is only ever getting closer to the front.

yet they still one of the very few virgins on the grid , it has to come already

jsmee · 14 Dec 2018, 18:08 (Ref:3870293)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

yet they still one of the very few virgins on the grid , it has to come already

You seem to have forgotten how competitive the BTCC is. Shaun and AmD have been stalwarts of the championship for 8 years, working their way up.

Even Shaun would admit his team aren't the best funded by any stretch. Yet I think you'll agree they have never disgraced themselves by locking out the last row on the grid race after race throughout their NGTC era, like some other team/s?

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porsche962fan · 14 Dec 2018, 18:15 (Ref:3870296)

but on the other hand many mid class teams did it already like BTC Norlin , laser Tools , the now defunct HMS heck even the old and cronically underfunded and controversial ES Racing did it a few years ago !!

with this potent ex -Eurotech Civics there are no excuses , at least a reverse grid win should be on the cards if he puts a capable driver

S griffin · 14 Dec 2018, 18:21 (Ref:3870299)

Not surprised to see Hill at TPC in the Audi, after coming close to switching to AMD this past season. Plus he’s driven the car before well, so he should do well with it

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