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24 Aug 2003, 06:29 (Ref:697083)
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Australian Motorsport History
It has struck me that there seems to be a lack of knowlage by the media etc of what has happend in the past in all forms of Motorsport in Asutralia.
I just watched RPM's tribute to Howard Marsden. I think it is great that they paid tribute to Howard and it is rich deserved. But why did they not mention his sucess with Nissan and his work on there Le Mans program. Or his rally work with George Fury and Ross Dunkerton. Just another example of the popular belief that Motorsport history started in this country on the 1st of January 1997 |
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24 Aug 2003, 06:35 (Ref:697084)
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The RPM tribute was pathetic.
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24 Aug 2003, 07:21 (Ref:697092)
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I cant see Ch 7 being very forthcoming with any footage from the Nissan years, even if they knew where it was. TV is nothing without footage, funny enough
 , but it would be a shame to let the details of the important developing years of racing in Australia slip.The great race books a pretty good way to keep track of the people and cars involved with the Bathurst race and its lead up, pity Australian Motor Racing Year didnt keep going 
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24 Aug 2003, 09:15 (Ref:697137)
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I wasnt a fan of the #10 tribute, I dont think their tribute to other fallen motorsport icons have been special either. Its a difficult subject to discuss for sure, but think that something as serious as this deserves a lot more respect than the way it is portrayed on that program in blipvert style.
These things should be a celebration of life rather than an acknowledgement of our own sadness at a passing into another world. We never seem to quite get there. Chevron would likely have had pics from the past of Howard Marsden, or the people who took over Lance J.Ruting's collection, or indeed any of the current pic takers... Its just sad that a tribute that could have been so much more ended up as they presented it
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24 Aug 2003, 09:52 (Ref:697159)
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It just seems that anything Ten does is from 1997 onwards. Nothing happend before that or so they would have you believe
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24 Aug 2003, 10:09 (Ref:697166)
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My biggest gripe with Australian motorsport is the fact that they have you believe that nothing ever happened before V8 Supercars.
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24 Aug 2003, 10:52 (Ref:697186)
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Agree completely, the general perception that is given out by TEN and AVESCO is that nothing happened before 1997,
although for all that we complain about Mathew White, he does at least mention some stats from pre-1997, though his call from Oran Park was interesting, where he said that Skaife had 4 Oran Park wins, but 6 if you want to include the Nissan wins...... I thought the same about the Marsden story omitting the Nissan years, plus to an extent his earlier years with Ford. For footage of the Nissan stuff, they should've tried the ABC. |
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24 Aug 2003, 10:58 (Ref:697191)
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Howard had a career before he came to Australia...
He run GT40s at Le Mans for instance. |
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24 Aug 2003, 11:17 (Ref:697206)
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Howard deserves a 1 hour doco on his achievements such were the extent of them.
Let's just hope that we do not lose anyone else this year. |
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24 Aug 2003, 12:02 (Ref:697230)
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Even the books and things get it wrong. Australina Muscle Car magazine, the Mark Oastler production quoted the Brock 05 VL that David Bowden has as the Bathurst winner from 1987. A bit wrong considering it wasa car 10 that won and last I heard Bob Jones of Cartrek had it.
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24 Aug 2003, 23:05 (Ref:697791)
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And the biggest immission of all (something I didn;t know until I read the Ford release) was that he looked after the cars in the movies Grand Prix and (yes, this one blew my socks off) Chitty Chitty Bang Bang..
It is also sad, really, that this year two Gentleman of motor sport have passed on - Howard Marsden and, in May, Carroll Smith - both of whom, for the past 3 years, I looked forward to seeing together at Formula SAE-A events each December... |
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24 Aug 2003, 23:22 (Ref:697802)
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AMC is correct, you are wrong! The Bowden car is the 1987 Bathurst winner. The car still has it's log book and that pretty much confirms it. See the following link for more detail: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...3&pagenumber=1 |
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24 Aug 2003, 23:47 (Ref:697821)
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Let's remember that Network Ten only had limited motorsport footage pre-1997. And I couldn't imagine Channel 7 even knowing where to look, if it's there ...
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24 Aug 2003, 23:52 (Ref:697824)
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That is absolutely no excuse for simply ignoring it howerver. Even the Ford releases made mention of his involvement with Nissan and others.
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