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Old 7 Feb 2018, 22:13 (Ref:3799409)   #46
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He also said he spent a large chunk of the race looking backwards and not forwards on the weekend.
thats the class though. Its a beginner level GT class.

Should GT4 be at the 12 hour?

Im 50:50 on it
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Old 7 Feb 2018, 22:55 (Ref:3799417)   #47
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Why 50 / 50? What is not to like about the class being included in the event.
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Old 7 Feb 2018, 23:15 (Ref:3799421)   #48
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Why 50 / 50? What is not to like about the class being included in the event.
Because its a beginner level Gt series. full of beginners who can get there bathurst rush at the 6 hour

Easy to make an argument that it shouldnt be there

Adds very little to the spectacle of the event either

However it makes those that believe in quantity over quality feel happy.

that being said I can give reasons for it being there as well, thus im 50:50
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Old 8 Feb 2018, 01:10 (Ref:3799428)   #49
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What would be a suitable replacement for Gt4 peckstar?
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Old 8 Feb 2018, 01:13 (Ref:3799429)   #50
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What would be a suitable replacement for Gt4 peckstar?
Nothing. either a smaller field or more of the other cars

40 cars does not worry me. smaller fields have tended to mean less safety cars.

Im not sure anyone would be upset with less safety cars
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Old 8 Feb 2018, 01:15 (Ref:3799430)   #51
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Old 8 Feb 2018, 01:19 (Ref:3799432)   #52
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Nothing. either a smaller field or more of the other cars

40 cars does not worry me. smaller fields have tended to mean less safety cars.

Im not sure anyone would be upset with less safety cars
If you're not into multi class racing and grid size doesn't matter, you could just get your Bathurst rush in October no?
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Old 8 Feb 2018, 01:25 (Ref:3799434)   #53
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If you're not into multi class racing and grid size doesn't matter, you could just get your Bathurst rush in October no?
Let me say the same thing another way

If you're into multi class racing and grid size matters, you could just get your Bathurst rush in April yes?

Sorry, that argument no longer cuts it as there is an alternative. And it has even more classes and bigger grids for those that think that way

Ive never meet a poster who wished there was more safety cars. Almost every poster mentions ways to reduce Safety cars. Well grid size is one
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Old 8 Feb 2018, 01:44 (Ref:3799442)   #54
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Old 8 Feb 2018, 01:57 (Ref:3799444)   #55
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I'm all out of popcorn.
woe betide someone should have a different opinion to someone in a forum hey

you should just hide them
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Old 8 Feb 2018, 01:58 (Ref:3799445)   #56
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you asked why tickford are not running a GT4, i answered you. To be clear a $300,000 Gt4 mustang is not a good deal in Australia.
GT4 is a beginners level category for gentleman racers. Gt4 is an almost non existent category in Australia so hardly worth spending $300,000 for a one off event when you can spend that money and run in other sereis which are better attended or watched.

The price is similar to a MARC II which is up to 10 seconds a lap quicker as well and promoted the mustang a lot more attractively
No you provided your opinion while ridiculing mine. There's a big difference.

So if $300k is not a good deal, why did Steve Richards and Tony Longhurst both drop their hard earned coin to put one in their stable? In my opinion, Steve Richards probably got a discount to show the car off as the local distributor and potentially drive some car sales. Would that be considered advertising the business? But wait, Tony Longhurst brought one out specifically to advertise his business in his last hurrah: "The first thing is to get through the Bathurst 12 Hour and I want to use it as a promotional tool for The Boat Works". Wow, bold plan there, mustn't be a very astute business person, or just plainly an idiot! However, I wonder who else could do something similar? Maybe Prodrive?

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Old 8 Feb 2018, 02:10 (Ref:3799446)   #57
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I enjoyed the GT4 category at the 12 hours.

The cars are pleasing to the eye, sound okay and featured some pretty good drivers behind the wheel.

Of course it is quite possible to enjoy the 6 hours, the 12 hours and the 1000. We are all free to select our particular order of preference.

Interestingly my 14 year old son prefers the 12 hour, followed by the 6 hour and then the 1000.

YMMV.
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So if $300k is not a good deal, why did Steve Richards and Tony Longhurst both drop their hard earned coin to put one in their stable? In my opinion, Steve Richards probably got a discount to show the car off as the local distributor and potentially drive some car sales. Would that be considered advertising the business? But wait, Tony Longhurst brought one out specifically to advertise his business in his last hurrah: "The first thing is to get through the Bathurst 12 Hour and I want to use it as a promotional tool for The Boat Works". Wow, bold plan there, mustn't be a very astute business person, or just plainly an idiot! However, I wonder who else could do something similar? Maybe Prodrive?
Are we still ridiculing, thought we stopped.

I guess tickford decided the bathurst 1000 was a better promotional opportunity with a series they already compete in as oppose to an event they would have to spend massive amounts of money tooling up for.

Compared to say SRM who are already competing in that series.
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I enjoyed the GT4 category at the 12 hours.

The cars are pleasing to the eye, sound okay and featured some pretty good drivers behind the wheel.

Of course it is quite possible to enjoy the 6 hours, the 12 hours and the 1000. We are all free to select our particular order of preference.
Agreed - the GT4 category was very enjoyable trackside at the event. It runs with GT3 all over the world and is seen as a likely replacement for GT3 down the road.

Look forward to GT4 being a part of the 12 Hour for many years to come.
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Are we still ridiculing, thought we stopped.

I guess tickford decided the bathurst 1000 was a better promotional opportunity with a series they already compete in as oppose to an event they would have to spend massive amounts of money tooling up for.

Compared to say SRM who are already competing in that series.
I'm presenting facts, which support my opinion.

So why in your opinion did Tony Longhurst bring a car out, which by all reports was only for the 12hr, if it such a silly idea? And what tooling would Tickford require to spend massive amounts of money on, for an off the shelf car?
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