Spa 24 Hours 2018 - Page 12

airbusA346 · 28 Jul 2018, 19:46 (Ref:3839546)

15 minutes of FCY for concrete to set.

Articus · 28 Jul 2018, 19:46 (Ref:3839547)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

29, 98, 42...and amazingly the 7, will be the major winners this time round.

But presumably, they'll only change 3 tyres on the 7 or something mental like that.

They might wait until green, then dive into the garage for a brake change

Akrapovic · 28 Jul 2018, 19:46 (Ref:3839548)

Oh good, I was worried we wouldn't have a pointless SC bunching. I'm glad the race director has clarified that we will indeed pointlessly bunch the cars again.

RedSquirrel · 28 Jul 2018, 19:46 (Ref:3839549)

Something to look for at the next Bentley pit stop: the rear suspension is softer than a very soft thing. There is significantly more droop than at the front. I suppose that's a consequence of it being a boat.

Akrapovic · 28 Jul 2018, 19:47 (Ref:3839550)

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Originally Posted by Articus

They might wait until green, then dive into the garage for a brake change

That'd be longer than the maximum stint length though. So you're probably right, that's exactly what they'll do.

seanyb505 · 28 Jul 2018, 19:48 (Ref:3839551)

Bob Varsha is back from commercial

gert · 28 Jul 2018, 19:49 (Ref:3839553)

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Originally Posted by bentley speed 8

Are we going to have this roulette every hour?

Yes, of course! SRO have decided this is the way to go.

And the race director even announced there will be a Safety Car "to regroup the cars".
Didn't he see they weren't grouped before?

John Hinhaugh and Graham Goodwin were right. The Spa 24 hour race has been ruined.

RedSquirrel · 28 Jul 2018, 19:50 (Ref:3839554)

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Originally Posted by Mountain Man

Useless bit of information, the Mercedes must be running lower than the other cars, they are causing way more sparks at Eau Rouge than other cars.

Indeed, they've done that since the SLS days. Most of the cars spark a bit but by contrast, GTEs don't seem to spark at all.

Akrapovic · 28 Jul 2018, 19:51 (Ref:3839555)

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Originally Posted by gert

Yes, of course! SRO have decided this is the way to go.

And the race director even announced there will be a Safety Car "to regroup the cars".
Didn't he see they weren't grouped before?

John Hinhaugh and Graham Goodwin were right. The Spa 24 hour race has been ruined.

Unfortunately, the ACO is beginning to take on some of the crazy SRO regulations too.

I miss tyres and fuel at separate times.

airbusA346 · 28 Jul 2018, 19:53 (Ref:3839558)

They've just said #98 has got a 5 sec penalty for track limits.

gert · 28 Jul 2018, 19:53 (Ref:3839559)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

Unfortunately, the ACO is beginning to take on some of the crazy SRO regulations too.

I miss tyres and fuel at separate times.

And no maximim stint lenghts and no minimum pit stop times, please

airbusA346 · 28 Jul 2018, 19:55 (Ref:3839560)

Why have FCY, they may as well just use the safety car.

Akrapovic · 28 Jul 2018, 19:55 (Ref:3839561)

The justification for the SC from the commentators was absolutely nonsense there.

"Those are the rules in Europe". No, those are just SRO rules.

"It means everyone is a line so less chance of tripping over each other". No, come on. That's just stupid.

seanyb505 · 28 Jul 2018, 19:56 (Ref:3839563)

With Land in the lead, when do they announce that Land have been cheating with refueling?

Mountain Man · 28 Jul 2018, 19:56 (Ref:3839564)

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Originally Posted by gert

John Hinhaugh and Graham Goodwin were right. The Spa 24 hour race has been ruined.

As opposed to Le Mans, where the result was decided before the race by the ACO coming up with some random EoT?

Akrapovic · 28 Jul 2018, 19:57 (Ref:3839565)

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Originally Posted by Mountain Man

As opposed to Le Mans, where the result was decided before the race by the ACO coming up with some random EoT?

I think both series have quite huge issues with the regulations at the moment - especially pit stop, stint lengths, etc.

Mountain Man · 28 Jul 2018, 19:57 (Ref:3839566)

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Originally Posted by gert

And no maximim stint lenghts and no minimum pit stop times, please

Those rightly help keep it a customer formula by discouraging a Manufacturer tech war. Without rules like those you have fewer cars

gert · 28 Jul 2018, 19:58 (Ref:3839567)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

"It means everyone is a line so less chance of tripping over each other".

I'm sure the 88, 58 and 63 will agree... :/

Mountain Man · 28 Jul 2018, 19:59 (Ref:3839568)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

I think both series have quite huge issues with the regulations at the moment - especially pit stop, stint lengths, etc.

I agree. The issues with Spa are no smaller or larger than Le Mans / WEC.

TF110 · 28 Jul 2018, 20:01 (Ref:3839571)

Good battles at the front at least.

airbusA346 · 28 Jul 2018, 20:01 (Ref:3839572)

Drive through for #99.

gert · 28 Jul 2018, 20:03 (Ref:3839574)

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Originally Posted by Mountain Man

Those rightly help keep it a customer formula by discouraging a Manufacturer tech war. Without rules like those you have fewer cars

It don't think this is the way to go though.
Regulate everything and you take away all opportunities for strategy and everything relies on luck, good or bad.
Just like we're seeing now. Is this racing or a lottery?

Maggo · 28 Jul 2018, 20:05 (Ref:3839576)

Too much rules everywhere.

Akrapovic · 28 Jul 2018, 20:05 (Ref:3839577)

Stint lengths should be regulated by a fuel tank size, not by a hard time limit. That allows for the strategy to come into play. Fuel and tyres should not be changed at the same time, again, to make the strategy important. Minimum pit stop times should be removed for the Pro class (Pro/Am and below it had a valid reason).

When you write everything into the regulations with hard time limits then everyone does the exact same thing.

tux · 28 Jul 2018, 20:06 (Ref:3839578)

Love these 15 minute long highlights every hour, because who wants to watch the actual race, right???

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