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Old 18 Aug 2018, 17:49 (Ref:3844486)   #46
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Silverstone doesn't have any noise regulations worth mentioning, it's decently far from the nearest houses.

It has no floodlights around the circuit but they do use a set in the pit lane for the 24 hour race.
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Old 18 Aug 2018, 19:15 (Ref:3844511)   #47
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Old 18 Aug 2018, 19:33 (Ref:3844516)   #48
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I see what you're getting at there, fair enough. Although I don't see the upside to that. I can't imagine any WEC fan has ever went to Silverstone and said they wanted less WEC and more Formula 3. I'd even go as far as dropping the F3 event completely and using Le Mans Cup - even if that has to be a shorter race.
I believe Silverstone themselves asked for the change to accommodate another series, and I'm guessing the money they'd get they feel offsets any lost ticket sales by saying they've increased your value per ticket. Although I think many here would argue less WEC means less value.

I know people who have stopped coming to Petit on Wednesday as the WeatherTech guys don't come in track until Thursday morning now, so not exactly better value there. It's not the same thing as it was done here to save the teams money by cutting a day not race length. But it is still one less practice session so less time on track with the main event. More spec MX-5s is NOT an improvement for me. But I want my camping spot so I'm there early regardless who's on track, maybe I'm not the target audience for this type of change either.
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Old 18 Aug 2018, 19:36 (Ref:3844517)   #49
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More of the same old from this current ACO management. The fans spoke, they listened, as Neveu said. Except, here are the results from the survey (p.20)

https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/static/...al_Low-Res.pdf
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Old 18 Aug 2018, 19:53 (Ref:3844523)   #50
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I believe Silverstone themselves asked for the change to accommodate another series, and I'm guessing the money they'd get they feel offsets any lost ticket sales by saying they've increased your value per ticket. Although I think many here would argue less WEC means less value.

I know people who have stopped coming to Petit on Wednesday as the WeatherTech guys don't come in track until Thursday morning now, so not exactly better value there. It's not the same thing as it was done here to save the teams money by cutting a day not race length. But it is still one less practice session so less time on track with the main event. More spec MX-5s is NOT an improvement for me. But I want my camping spot so I'm there early regardless who's on track, maybe I'm not the target audience for this type of change either.
I think your last line is quite funny because it's how we all seem to feel, lol. Everyone seems to be saying "maybe this isn't targeted at me", including me. If it isn't for us, who is it for? lol.

Reducing the main event to get another support event is bizarre. Although there was a weird statement during ELMS, but I forgot who said it - they said Silverstone was basically the only place other than Le Mans where you'll get that many top line sportscars in one weekend, but I disagree - Sebring next year will have the same thing.

Maybe that's what they should do. Turn Silverstone into an ACO festival to start the year. Stick Le Mans Cup in as well, and do what IMSA does so well - big weekends of everything.
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Old 18 Aug 2018, 20:40 (Ref:3844529)   #51
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Perhaps I am missing something, but I don't see this solving timetable congestion. Assuming ELMS retains the 4 hour event and the Saturday slot, then Saturday timetable will be identical.

Sunday would indeed cut 2 hours off the race, but looking at the timetable, there is only two races. Sunday actually starts an hour later, and the first track action isn't until 10am. If they had too much congestion then they really should consider moving the Formula 3 race an hour earlier, or dropping it completely from the Silverstone weekend as ELMS is already the support event. The Le Mans Cup event doesn't attend due to timetable constraints and tbh, I doubt anyone would miss F3.
I won't even bother watching the F3 tomorrow morning, paint drying springs to mind
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Old 18 Aug 2018, 20:48 (Ref:3844530)   #52
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I'd drop F3 in a heartbeat and replace it with 2x1hr Le Mans Cup races.

Bearing in mind that during the ELMS race today there were probably more people in the WEC pitwalk than watching the race on track, we should remember that ELMS is very much the support race this weekend. The crowd was really thin.

It's a shame about the 6hr->4hr change but I'm relieved to see Silverstone on the calendar at all.

As an aside, I much prefer the 2-day ELMS format forced on them this weekend. 3-day ELMS weekends stretch the track action very thin indeed.
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Old 20 Aug 2018, 14:45 (Ref:3844973)   #53
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If the shortened duration is at Silverstone's request, then I assume they'll be dropping the Sunday ticket price by a third to compensate?

Yeah, I doubt it.

If the schedule is that tight then I agree with the others saying lose the F3 races, don't short change us on the main event!
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I'd drop F3 in a heartbeat and replace it with 2x1hr Le Mans Cup races....
Or even a round of British GT.
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Old 20 Aug 2018, 15:17 (Ref:3844986)   #55
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British GT is run by SRO, so I doubt they'd be up for it, although it is a nice thought.

I'd drop Formula 3 completely, add Le Mans Cup and do a special weekend for them. Friday practice/qualifying, Saturday 1 hour race, Sunday 1 hour race.
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I'm okay with the prospect of 4 Hours (although goes without saying that 6 would be better, especially with the heritage of it being a Silverstone 6 Hours going way back) - so long as what they fill the time with is a bit more meaningful than F3.

Le Mans Cup I could run with, but that's got a fair bit of cross over with ELMS, so maybe less enthused. Historics would be something I could see the appeal in (with all the usual caveats about them being processional) - although would that just serve to show that relatively speaking current LMPs don't look that wonderful?
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Old 21 Aug 2018, 10:33 (Ref:3845150)   #57
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Disappointed to see the reduction to 4 hours for Silverstone. Do they think that the "casual" motorsport fan is put off by the prospect of a 6 hour race, and they can get more bums on seats with a shorter event ? It's hard to imagine any worthwhile support event given you have the ELMS race the previous day.
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Just had the usual e mail from silverstone to fill in the survey, took every opportunity to moan about shortening the race to 4 hours
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Although there was a weird statement during ELMS, but I forgot who said it - they said Silverstone was basically the only place other than Le Mans where you'll get that many top line sportscars in one weekend
I don't remember the exact quote, but what they said was basically that instead of 6 hours of sportscar racing, Silverstone would have 8 AND a far larger car count (i.e. the car count of WEC + that of ELMS).

IIRC, that was Graham Goodwin, and the way he told it - it occurred to me as that was how the organizers would try to sell it, and not something he himself would buy into...


Later on in the ELMS race, this was brought up again, and then the possibility of the LMP3 races was added
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Old 21 Aug 2018, 15:51 (Ref:3845217)   #60
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If they wanted to shorten the race a bit why not return to the 1000km format?
This year the race would have ended after
1000km / 193.3 km/h (per alkamel average speed of #8) = 5 hours and 10 minutes
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