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14 Apr 2017, 08:49 (Ref:3726274)
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The engine isn't overly complicated though and shouldn't require rebuilds more than a current P2 unit. If that cost does include what's basically an entire package for a season which includes the rebuilds and spares then I can see the cost being reasonable, and you would have to assume it does given the nature of the press release which seems to cover a seasons cost.
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does anybody know the price of the gibson leasing and if oreca/oak/dallara/riley new lmp2 chassis have a cost cap?
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14 Apr 2017, 08:51 (Ref:3726275)
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yeah.... considering that SMP lmp1 too will be based on dallara lmp2
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14 Apr 2017, 10:19 (Ref:3726289)
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= Nice 2014-2015 Porsche 919! 
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14 Apr 2017, 14:42 (Ref:3726361)
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So another addition to LMP1 hopefully, the more the merrier. I wish whoever runs it all the best
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14 Apr 2017, 17:47 (Ref:3726401)
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yeah.... considering that SMP lmp1 too will be based on dallara lmp2
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Dallara claim there's no relation. We'll see though. As long as there's new competitive lmp1's, to me it doesn't matter. Lets just hope they go for a different color scheme than red white and black 
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14 Apr 2017, 18:00 (Ref:3726409)
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Lets just hope they go for a different color scheme than red white and black |
 Quite. I was starting to think it was a regulation.....
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14 Apr 2017, 18:09 (Ref:3726411)
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Dallara claim there's no relation. We'll see though. As long as there's new competitive lmp1's, to me it doesn't matter. Lets just hope they go for a different color scheme than red white and black |
question is: will ginetta or smp lmp1 be as fast as lmp2? (considering that in 2018 will improve at least 1 second at silverstone?)
what's the deal then to pay 3x for a package that at worst must to run in 1.42
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15 Apr 2017, 10:44 (Ref:3726536)
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If they manage to stay at the minimum LMP1-NH allowed weight and have approximately a similar downforce package compared to current p2, they can be much quicker. It would be 100 kg less. This is more than 3 seconds in certain tracks...
Theoretically the rules should help them now, at least being quicker than the LMP2 field.
The engine should also have at least a bit more power than the Gibson...hopefully it will work out!
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18 Apr 2017, 22:51 (Ref:3727644)
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The car will weight 750 kg, which must be ballasted to minimum weight, allowing an ideal weight distribution .
The Megachrome engine, which is available exclusively in the LMP1 for Ginetta, will be able to beat the performance of the Gibson LMP2 engines, which is 600 HP strong.
http://cms3.gt-eins.at/le-mans-wec/1...a-lmp1-projekt
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18 Apr 2017, 23:13 (Ref:3727647)
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750kg is not easy task, explains the cost of the car a bit better as well considering the materials, design and additional machining time & complexity for a lot of the parts.
If they can reliably achieve 750kg and > 600hp this thing is going to be bloody awesome.
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18 Apr 2017, 23:39 (Ref:3727653)
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750kg is not easy task, explains the cost of the car a bit better as well considering the materials, design and additional machining time & complexity for a lot of the parts.
If they can reliably achieve 750kg and > 600hp this thing is going to be bloody awesome.
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That would be cool if they could run at 750kg, but they'll ballast it to the minimum weight which is currently 830kg.
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19 Apr 2017, 00:06 (Ref:3727659)
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That would be cool if they could run at 750kg, but they'll ballast it to the minimum weight which is currently 830kg.
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Ah right, I misunderstood, still, 830kg and more power than the P2 should at least give them a decent pace advantage over that class so we don't see the mess that is Kolles.
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19 Apr 2017, 01:23 (Ref:3727667)
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The last LMP cars that I know of that were 750KG or less unballasted where the 2012/2013 and later Audi R18s, and the LMP1 wolf in LMP2 sheep's clothing that was the Porsche RS Spyder (750kg was LMP2 minimum at the time, and was the only car to meet that with ballast). Also most LMP675s that were purpose built for those regs were down to below 700kg with ballast, which of course is part of the reason they were so fragile.
I know that the Toyota LMP1s and the Porsche 919s are obviously ballasted to meet 875kg, but I doubt that they're 750kg unladen. Also, LMPs are weighed without drivers or fuel onboard.
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20 Apr 2017, 15:04 (Ref:3727975)
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20 Apr 2017, 22:05 (Ref:3728039)
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I'm glad others see the Cadillac likeness in this design.
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