A Friend Remembered A Tribute to Mike Bell 2021 Calendar

Driver TBA · 15 Feb 2020, 02:06 (Ref:3957669)

https://www.speedcafe.com/2020/02/15...speedway-test/

Respectable effort for a super speedway virgin.

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one five five · 15 Feb 2020, 02:32 (Ref:3957671)

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Originally Posted by JAFA851

Sure, but everyone knows these guys can't drive a proper race track ( "road course" ). Put him on an oval, where the bulk of the races are run, and watch him fill the bottom slot......

The bulk of the races are run on road and street circuits

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Originally Posted by Driver TBA

https://www.speedcafe.com/2020/02/15...speedway-test/

Respectable effort for a super speedway virgin.

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As Rowdy Burns once said

“Now let’s see you you go in a crowd”

V8 Fireworks · 15 Feb 2020, 03:13 (Ref:3957673)

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Originally Posted by JAFA851

Sure, but everyone knows these guys can't drive a proper race track ( "road course" ).

You are thinking of NASCAR drivers. Indycar drivers tend to be pretty handy on road courses, lots of talent from GP2, DTM and F1. Australia's Will Power is Formula Holden champ and runner-up in Australian F3 after all.

JAFA851 · 16 Feb 2020, 00:36 (Ref:3957765)

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Originally Posted by one five five

The bulk of the races are run on road and street circuits

OK well I'll take that back then. I just remember when Scott Dixon went over there the bulk were ovals and it took him a little while to work it all out, and he'd come largely from single seaters than big heavy saloon cars.

mayhem · 16 Feb 2020, 01:23 (Ref:3957766)

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Originally Posted by JAFA851

OK well I'll take that back then. I just remember when Scott Dixon went over there the bulk were ovals and it took him a little while to work it all out, and he'd come largely from single seaters than big heavy saloon cars.

Joined the CART series in 2001, won a race on on Oval. Won the Indy car title in 2003. Long slog...

Axeman444 · 17 Feb 2020, 01:45 (Ref:3957878)

LOL 12 of 17 events on Road/Street... but don't let the jaded opinions cloud anything.

V8 Fireworks · 17 Feb 2020, 04:26 (Ref:3957892)

Supercars says

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The Commodore will remain on track for the 2020 Championship season.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2020/02/17...tiring-holden/

This is remarkably non-specific with respect to Commodore participation in the 2021 championship.

With Holden to be scaled down ASAP and cease sales by the end of 2020, it raises rather a question mark really.

Tourer · 17 Feb 2020, 05:00 (Ref:3957895)

Well, of course it's non-specific re 2021, the Holden announcement was only made to the company's staff today. Many more discussions to come re external programs over the coming days/weeks.

Maybe there'll be a GM (not Holden) product racing in VASA in 2021, maybe not.

Might be the time to point out that NASCAR's new car comes online in 2021, maybe it's time to renew that friendship and just go that way?

V8 Fireworks · 17 Feb 2020, 05:59 (Ref:3957907)

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Well, of course it's non-specific re 2021, the Holden announcement was only made to the company's staff today. Many more discussions to come re external programs over the coming days/weeks.

Supercars administration should have anticipated this and signed many more than two manufacturers up to the series. Indeed at one point there were five manufacturers, but Supercars were unable to retain three of these.

simonracer · 17 Feb 2020, 07:08 (Ref:3957913)

I don't see why there couldn't be Commodores racing next year unless they bring forward the regulation change, even if it's without Holden money.

V8 Fireworks · 17 Feb 2020, 07:37 (Ref:3957917)

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Originally Posted by simonracer

I don't see why there couldn't be Commodores racing next year

Roland Dane says
"We don’t want to look like a secondhand car yard. If we’ve got cars that are not available anymore, with shapes that belong to a bygone era, you can only do that for a limited time. I don’t think that’s in anyone’s interest, and I don’t think there is any need to do it.”
https://autoaction.com.au/2018/03/13...dhand-car-yard

I think it would be feasible to permit only Mustang, and require everybody to run an off-the-shelf Ford Racing 5.2L alluminator crate engine (to cut costs). It would certainly solve parity issues.

The process to convert a ZB Commodore to a Mustang is straight-forward, and everybody would be on a level playing field with the cheap bog standard $34,000AUD crate engines, instead of the current highly customised $150,000AUD Windsors. https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-6007-A52XS

Gen 3 could be postponed until such a time that another manufacturer is interested.

mayhem · 17 Feb 2020, 08:07 (Ref:3957922)

Honest question: What does a manufacturer bring these days outside of dollars? Aren't they little more than a large sponsor to the sport these days?

And if not, surely this is the wake up call Supercars needs to run the sport without any manufacturer involvement.

bluesport · 17 Feb 2020, 08:31 (Ref:3957928)

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Originally Posted by V8 Fireworks

Roland Dane says
"We don’t want to look like a secondhand car yard. If we’ve got cars that are not available anymore, with shapes that belong to a bygone era, you can only do that for a limited time. I don’t think that’s in anyone’s interest, and I don’t think there is any need to do it.”
https://autoaction.com.au/2018/03/13...dhand-car-yard

I think it would be feasible to permit only Mustang, and require everybody to run an off-the-shelf Ford Racing 5.2L alluminator crate engine (to cut costs). It would certainly solve parity issues.

The process to convert a ZB Commodore to a Mustang is straight-forward, and everybody would be on a level playing field with the cheap bog standard $34,000AUD crate engines, instead of the current highly customised $150,000AUD Windsors. https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-6007-A52XS

Gen 3 could be postponed until such a time that another manufacturer is interested.

Great idea re the 5.2L crate engine.

Mixer · 17 Feb 2020, 09:01 (Ref:3957939)

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Originally Posted by V8 Fireworks

Supercars administration should have anticipated this and signed many more than two manufacturers up to the series. Indeed at one point there were five manufacturers, but Supercars were unable to retain three of these.

There was only ever 4 manufacturers and one very expensive vanity project.

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Originally Posted by simonracer

I don't see why there couldn't be Commodores racing next year unless they bring forward the regulation change, even if it's without Holden money.

No doubt they will keep them going next year and possibly after that. After all no manufacturers are required for Super2 cars....

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Great idea re the 5.2L crate engine.

Except that there is a LOT more options and parts for the LS motors, and FAR more series use such over any Ford crate motor.

bluesport · 17 Feb 2020, 09:18 (Ref:3957944)

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Originally Posted by Mixer

Except that there is a LOT more options and parts for the LS motors, and FAR more series use such over any Ford crate motor.

Better to have a quad cam more modern design.