2012 Muscle Car Masters

DAVID PATERSON · 24 Aug 2012, 13:14 (Ref:3124083)

It's on next weekend, September 1 & 2, i can't believe there isn't a thread about it already. Programme includes NZ Muscle cars, Touring Car Masters, Historic Groups Nb & Nc and Group C & A Touring Cars and for the first time ever, Formula 5000!

Group A entry list is the '87 2-litre ATCC winning TTA Corolla, a Bob Holden Sprinter, the ex-Peter Williamson MA61 Supra, the Xerox Shop Starion, John Smith's ex-TTA MA70 Supra turbo, the GIO Nissan R32 GT-R, a JPS M3, a Schnitzer M3, a Macau Guia M3 Evo, a Dick Johnson Mustang, an RS500 Sierra, a HRT VL Commodore, the Trevethan/Mcdowell VL Commodore, the Wraith/Park VK Commodore, the Hazelton Volvo 240 turbo and the Willmington Jaguar XJ-S.

21 car Group C entry list includes the turbo Bluebird, the Army Reserve XD Falcon, the Grice/Bond STP Commodore from Bathurst '83, the Taylor/Kennedy VH Commodore, two RX-7s, a Seton Capri, three Bob Holden Escorts, the DeBortoli Escort that followed Moffats' cars across the line at Bathurst in '77, a Chickadee Celica and Terry Finnigan's Maggi noodles Gemini.

Shane001 · 24 Aug 2012, 13:17 (Ref:3124085)

Fark we're spoilt for motorsport here in Sydney atm.

Time Attack.
V8 SuperCars.
Muscle Car Masters.

And the best part, as an ARDC member they're all free entry

nafe! · 24 Aug 2012, 13:25 (Ref:3124092)

Shocking luck having the v8's one week before it, there will be plenty who have to make the decision to see one or the other and i can see v8's being the winner this time round.

I might make it next sunday to MCM after spending tomorow at the creek.

Group A field is a bit light on compared to previous years by the looks of it.

Formula 5000 though mmmmmm.

NZ muscle cars is a take it or leave it affair, much more interested in the headline Biante touring car masters series!

jd yort · 24 Aug 2012, 20:56 (Ref:3124286)

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Originally Posted by nafe!

Shocking luck having the v8's one week before it, there will be plenty who have to make the decision to see one or the other and i can see v8's being the winner this time round.

I thought it may have been the other way around nafe. The Muscle Car Masters has become a tradition for Sydney siders and the V8 marketing machine has not exactly been in full swing. Quite curious as to the numbers they get out there this weekend. I am def heading out there on the Saturday next week.

Reload · 24 Aug 2012, 22:58 (Ref:3124340)

Will be attending on the Saturday to avoid the crowd and see some non stop racing with some real race cars.
Come to think of it, i could have attended the Supercars and avoided a crowd !!

TSR · 25 Aug 2012, 05:53 (Ref:3124383)

Will be attending my first MCM on Sunday, and looking forward to it. Hope the weather is all good.

David Towe · 25 Aug 2012, 08:39 (Ref:3124429)

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Originally Posted by DAVID PATERSON

It's on next weekend, September 1 & 2, i can't believe there isn't a thread about it already. Programme includes NZ Muscle cars, Touring Car Masters, Historic Groups Nb & Nc and Group C & A Touring Cars and for the first time ever, Formula 5000!

Group A entry list is the '87 2-litre ATCC winning TTA Corolla, a Bob Holden Sprinter, the ex-Peter Williamson MA61 Supra, the Xerox Shop Starion, John Smith's ex-TTA MA70 Supra turbo, the GIO Nissan R32 GT-R, a JPS M3, a Schnitzer M3, a Macau Guia M3 Evo, a Dick Johnson Mustang, an RS500 Sierra, a HRT VL Commodore, the Trevethan/Mcdowell VL Commodore, the Wraith/Park VK Commodore, the Hazelton Volvo 240 turbo and the Willmington Jaguar XJ-S.

21 car Group C entry list includes the turbo Bluebird, the Army Reserve XD Falcon, the Grice/Bond STP Commodore from Bathurst '83, the Taylor/Kennedy VH Commodore, two RX-7s, a Seton Capri, three Bob Holden Escorts, the DeBortoli Escort that followed Moffats' cars across the line at Bathurst in '77, a Chickadee Celica and Terry Finnigan's Maggi noodles Gemini.

Sorry to inform you all that as a matter of safety one other competitor and I will not be competing this year.

Just Do It! · 25 Aug 2012, 08:45 (Ref:3124434)

What's the issue, David. I know that some Kiwi marshalls will be there to have a "look and learn".

David Towe · 25 Aug 2012, 08:59 (Ref:3124444)

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Originally Posted by Just Do It!

What's the issue, David. I know that some Kiwi marshalls will be there to have a "look and learn".

It's most certainly not them, when I raced in NZ in January they were a great buch of guys and girls who did a fantastic job.
we were given assurances that safety concerns we had would be addressed and we confirmed yesterday that those assurances had now not been met. We were left with no other course of action but tio inform the ARDC of our immediate withdrawals.
The sad thing is that both of us have entered every MCM held so far and we both agree it is a fantastic meeting. I was so looking forward to giving the bigger cars something to chase through the new extension that I think would have been an advantage for the M3s. Ahhh well, not to be. I hope I do get to run there again someday.
Cheers
David

Just Do It! · 25 Aug 2012, 09:40 (Ref:3124459)

DRT won't be too happy about this, I suspect.

Specifically, from a learning perspective, could you elaborate on your safety concerns as there are a wider number of people - competitors and fans - who would interested to hear a driver's perspective. MCM looks awesome on TV, but what is it that you aren't comfortable with in the hot seat?

David Towe · 25 Aug 2012, 10:28 (Ref:3124473)

Quite simply, the driving ability and attitude of one competitor who has a record and repuatation for moronic maneuvers that put people's lives in danger.
I must stress it is nothing against the organisers, flaggies, scrutineers or medical people who all do a wonderfull job there. Just one person that many have said shouldn't be in a car and two of us have seen fit to take some action before something serious happens.

Reload · 25 Aug 2012, 10:37 (Ref:3124474)

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Originally Posted by David Towe

Quite simply, the driving ability and attitude of one competitor who has a record and repuatation for moronic maneuvers that put people's lives in danger.
I must stress it is nothing against the organisers, flaggies, scrutineers or medical people who all do a wonderfull job there. Just one person that many have said shouldn't be in a car and two of of have seen fit to take some action before something serious happens.

Bloody Morris !

Fairlane GTA · 25 Aug 2012, 10:49 (Ref:3124479)

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Originally Posted by nafe!

NZ muscle cars is a take it or leave it affair, much more interested in the headline Biante touring car masters series!

Don't underestimate the Central Muscle Cars, the top cars should be faster than the Biante cars.

Just picking 2 from the list............. Stubber's Camaro if it's the same car he last raced here is a jet. Shane Wigston's HQ is crazy fast. They are well worth a look

rdmdog · 25 Aug 2012, 11:29 (Ref:3124501)

Let's hope the parking is sorted prior to next week. one word for today, SHAMOZEL!

Croud was reasonable today for what was/is clearly a not so high profile meeting, very relaxed. with bathurst just around the corner and the proximity of MCM next week, I think it'd be a little unfair to compare this meeting with just about anything!

No corporate tent on the roof of the pits was a god send, but some of the other "Improvements" have me a little concerned (Flash backs to State Championship meetings on Oran South Circuit while karts were racing there too).

eskymsport · 25 Aug 2012, 22:34 (Ref:3124778)

i am flying over from NZ for this meeting, can't wait. is there somewere i can down load an entry list or program of events

David Towe · 26 Aug 2012, 01:58 (Ref:3124836)

The exit of turn two is always popular and so is the the exit of turn 12 where you might also get to see some of the new section too.

nova99 · 26 Aug 2012, 09:21 (Ref:3124929)

Go to Muscle Car Masters site all you need to know is there,I know you will enjoy the weekend lots of great cars,cheers.

David Towe · 27 Aug 2012, 22:06 (Ref:3126050)

I'm glad to report we're both back in for this weekend. There has been an agreement put in place and some proceedural changes that will be a big step towards increasing driver safety in our category that satisfies us enough to re-enter. Thses proceedural changes will be implimented and improved upon in the future. Quite simply someone needed to do something before someone gets seriously injured.
Feel free to drop by the pit lane garage and say hello.
Cheers
David

alfacors · 27 Aug 2012, 22:58 (Ref:3126073)

Great to hear, see you out there mate!

Reload · 28 Aug 2012, 03:53 (Ref:3126134)

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Towe

I'm glad to report we're both back in for this weekend. There has been an agreement put in place and some proceedural changes that will be a big step towards increasing driver safety in our category that satisfies us enough to re-enter. Thses proceedural changes will be implimented and improved upon in the future. Quite simply someone needed to do something before someone gets seriously injured.
Feel free to drop by the pit lane garage and say hello.
Cheers
David

Great to hear David and i wish the Richards diecast BMW was coming out a little earlier so you could have signed it this weekend

formerf1champ · 1 Sep 2012, 10:01 (Ref:3128162)

Anybody got some stories to tell?

ForumNick · 1 Sep 2012, 10:05 (Ref:3128168)

It's not on 'till Tomorrow!

St00ge · 1 Sep 2012, 10:06 (Ref:3128169)

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Originally Posted by ForumNick

It's not on 'till Tomorrow!

http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/re...2/09/2012.SMPL

Really???

ForumNick · 1 Sep 2012, 10:13 (Ref:3128170)

Well......

I can't get there 'till tomorrow.....

So..... Yes!

David Towe · 1 Sep 2012, 10:34 (Ref:3128176)

Had a tough day today chasing a vibration, new rubber tomorrow and hopefully a place or two higher up the results sheet. I must say I liked the new section, when I'm not stuck behind a Commodore anyway.
If you're coming tomorrow forumnick, may I suggest you be there really early, it takes forever to get through the gates later in the morning.

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