MG ZS Engines

[Rocktracer]

who will be supplying the engines to the mg's next year or will mg take them inhouse?

[FIRE]

At the moment Advanced Engine Research (AER) supplies the engines. Will MG end this partnership coming season?

[kmchow]

How much experience does AER have producing high revving engines? And ST experience?

[touringlegend]

Enough to win the 1999 title with Nissan..

[FIRE]

Is there a reason for MG to change to another engine supplier? I think there isn't.

[Craig]

Apart from the fact they detonate with alarming regularity, perhaps...?

I think we're all overlooking one vital point here - MG are not yet confirmed to be competing next year!

[FIRE]

Is Rover/MG selling cars? I mean are they financial ok or have they still a lott of losses?

[touringcarnut]

Originally posted by FIRE
Is Rover/MG selling cars? I mean are they financial ok or have they still a lott of losses?

They seem to be in better shape than they were a few years ago, but some news articles seem convinced that the group are doomed to failure- which I hope are wildly wrong!

[Kelvin]

MG Rover are selling cars, and perhaps the only marque that have regular MG owning enthusiasts at the race meetings, arriving in convoy & parking together. You may have seen the display at Snetterton?

Kelvin
MG ZS Owner.

[Craig]

Which you'd kind of expect, really, can't see BMW encouraging MG owners to turn up and park together.

In any case that doesn't actually tell us whether they're in the red or the black...

[Kelvin]

BMW? They having nothing to do with MG Rover anymore..

I think as a whole MGR are still in the red, but losses being steadily reduced.. Some new models about to be launched which should improve overall cash flow..

I think MG will go on to race in 2004!

[Rocktracer]

AER have lost the contract to supply the engines, with effect from next year. So my sources say!

[david_james2000]

Originally posted by touringlegend
Enough to win the 1999 title with Nissan..

Advanced Engine Research didnt build the nissan engines in 1999 it was Engine Developments LTD (better know as JUDD Power)

[Rocktracer]

hence the company is going down hill..

[PenelopePitstop]

I think MG will go on to race in 2004!

But what will thet race? Will it be the SV at Le Mans? or maybe the ZS or Will they Rally the ZR?

[nickrichardson]

MG still have not confirmed that they will be racing next year. Judd did build the Nissan engines and are in the BTCC at the moment... or they were at Snetterton

[ATF]

Originally posted by Kelvin
I think MG will go on to race in 2004!

This year they didn't compete in Le Mans so they could focus on winning the championship in the BTCC. What a success story - maybe no BTCC in 2004 after all!

[FIRE]

Originally posted by david_james2000
Advanced Engine Research didnt build the nissan engines in 1999 it was Engine Developments LTD (better know as JUDD Power)

From AER's website:

1999 British Touring Car Championship
1st Manufacturers' Championship - Vodafone Nissan Racing
1st Drivers' Championship - Laurent Aiello
2nd Drivers' Championship - David Leslie
1st Teams' Championship - Vodafone Nissan Racing
1st Independents' Championship - Matt Neal & Team Dynamics

But on Engine Developments website:

In 1997 we were asked by Nissan to take over their engine design and development program for BTCC. The result was a completely new engine that dominated the next 2 years of the Championship, winning both Drivers’ and Manufacturers’ Championships.

Who's speaking the truth?

[Neil Adams]

i don't think mg will pull out, i have no definate figures but to my mind you now see loads of mgs on the road, more than their equivalent rover versions. they're quite popular with young people, as well. to pull out now would be daft, they're everybodys 'underdog'favourites as the race meets as well, also with brilliant liverys, i think the btcc would have a gaping hole without them

[FIRE]

Here in Holland there aren't many MG's on the Road. I cannot remember that I have seen one.

[Phoenix1]

MG are making a loss but in business terms they are maiing a profit eg when they where a small part of BMW they where leaking money big time thus being sold off for something like £1 and BMW giving them a few million to get a start with. Since then the quaterly losses have gone down, eg losing less. The company has to speculate to accumulate thus BTCC, LeMan etc.. they change their image and so their fortunes. MG at Le Man/BTCC have massive support and of course are actually British unlike Vauxhall (GM) which are American, Honda - Japan, Proton - Malaysia, Peugeot - French, BMW - German, Nissan - French (owned by Renualt). Other than MG we only really have TVR as motorsports co. that does road cars. No to say of course we don't do well in motorsports though, F1 - nearly all cars/engines, same for other motorsports.

[Craig]

Originally posted by Kelvin
BMW? They having nothing to do with MG Rover anymore..

Precisely...

[kmchow]

Interesting, two companies, both claiming to have powered the ST Nissans?

[Go_For_Pole]

If I remember correctly, Nissan switched tuners mid-season so both claims are to an extend correct

[Eddie_harasym]

MG should be running a 4pot next year instead of the 6. This should give them a level playing field.

Anyway Proton have commitied to next year, and they have had a much worse, BTCC campaign than MG.